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The Reincarnation of President John F. Kennedy

Karen's FPL Believability Criteria


@Tanguerra, Deb, et al. -- since you are referring people with FPL claims to relevant reference material on this site, would you like to use the "Believability Criteria" I wrote up? I've updated them and now also have a set of "Multiple FPL Believability Criteria" for people to use who think they've lived more than one FPL... the beauty of this second set being that it doesn't depend on memory or anything internal at all -- purely historical sources. Let me know and I'll send both if you like.


Also -- that list of possible reasons for speciously claiming FPLs that I wrote years ago has a glaring hole: no Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which I suspect is likely responsible for more fake FPL claims than anything else. Here are the diagnostic criteria as per DSM-IV (five or more = positive diagnosis):

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love


(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)


(4) requires excessive admiration


(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations


(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends


(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others


(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her


(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
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You see how this can lend itself well to claiming FPLs, and explain other behaviours you've all witnessed on this site... I'd like to update that in the FPL reference thread, too, if I may.
 
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I take a bit of a softer view personally. I think some of this comes from genuine misunderstandings about the experiences people have. People might remember a few bits and pieces of something, but then jump to the wrong conclusions based on too little information or with the encouragement of psychics or the like. Not everyone is deliberately trying to trick anyone.


Most people are quite genuine, but once they get the idea into their heads that they were someone famous, it's hard to come back from that position and accept that they may have been someone much less prominent who was around at the same time.
 
Well, I agree that deliberate fakery is extremely rare. And I do appreciate your gentle approach.


I reiterate my question, though, do you want to post the believability criteria or other new items of mine?
 
It's up to you if you'd like to post it somewhere KarenF? Do you think it would be instructive or useful to others?


We have an FAQ, 'Why so many famous past lives' which I think covers the general aspects of the issue, without getting into too many personal specifics.
 
I've often had the theory myself that since we are so far into the age of mass media, that it may have been possible that a past life you are recalling was familiar with a famous person through television documentaries, research and other means; despite not having seen any of those sources in their current life. And then naturally an affinity for this person comes through and this can create false memories.


Of course the test would be to identify subtle and lesser known facts about the person.
 
Marilu: I'm not accusing you, or anyone else, of lying (if you were replying to my post). I don't know who you are and I didn't say that you needed to lie about a past life. It's great for you that you don't feel that need.


That still doesn't rule out the possibility that you may be wrong. There are many reasons why someone could be wrong when claiming an FPL and it doesn't have to be because they're lying to overcompensate for something. For example, someone might be very drawn to a well-known historical figure or time period and think they were them because they feel that way and can find a lot of information about that person, when in reality they may have been someone else who knew that individual or lived in the same time period. The things you've told us don't mean that you weren't JFK but they also don't mean that you were.


I'll repeat that I'm not accusing you of lying and I'm not commenting on the things you haven't told us. Maybe you have more solid evidence and know that you were him in a PL and that's great for you. There's no need to be hostile about the questions and comments you've gotten here since nobody (as far as I can see) here seems to have posted in a rude or hostile manner.
 
Maurice Tempelsman and William Robert Greer, the driver of JFK' s limousine, shot JFK. It took me awhile to find out who the French gypsy was. At first I thought it was Maurice Martineau, because he was the only one with that name and with a French last name, and he was acting strange the weeks before JFK got killed, like ignoring a threat against JFK. Maurice Tempelmann attended Harvard and Yale and he speaks French. He got transferred from a university in Moscow using a false name. He came with his lover Natasha from Russia, to the U.S. They worked for Vladimir, an KGB agent or ex-KGB agent. JFK as the CIA spy he was, investigated these people and the organization they worked for. JFK was close to Hitler, as a CIA spy he went to Germany to be close to him. That's why I first believed that I was Hitler, JFK was around Hitler.
 
In 1961 JFK sent French President Charles de Gaulle a handwritten note, signed by him, that he had information that the KGB had infiltrated the French Intelligence Service at the very high levels. A research was done but nothing ever came out. The KGB also infiltrated the CIA. The CIA sought for decades for one Soviet mole in the CIA, but without any success. His code name was Sasha. He spoke French and came from Eastern Europe. This infiltration of the French Intelligence Service by the Soviets got called the Sapphire Affair. When the CIA was in Congo during the sixties, Maurice Tempelsman was there and he was the


boss of a CIA agent who was working for him in Maurice's diamond business.


When I said that William Robert wore a blue sapphire ring, I thought it had something to do with an actual ring, but it is about a spy ring. Figuring this all out is not very easy, but God is helping me to sort this out. The truth has to come out.
 
Maurice Tempelsman is a French Gypsy who was born in Romania. His parents were French gypsies who immigrated to Romania. Maurice was a brilliant student, so much that he attracted the attention of the Soviets and he was sent to a university in Moscow to study, which is the KGB Institute in Moscow. There Maurice studied with Vladimir a KGB or ex KGB agent. At the institute Maurice met Natasha, who became his lover. These two came to the U.S. Maurice got transferred to Yale and Harvard. He entered the CIA by recommendation of a friend. He changed his name and identity before arriving at the U.S.When JFK got shot, there were some people who said they saw a dark complexion man, but nobody found him. Oswald Lee Harvey was by no means dark complexioned, he was actually helping the Kennedy brothers to arrest the Soviet moles in the CIA. He was the one who alerted the Secret Service that there was a plot to kill JFK in Chicago.
 
The plot to kill JFK was discovered. And here is where Maurice Mortineau comes in. He was head of the Chicago Field Office of the Secret Service. He didn't believe there was a plot to assassinate JFK. He didn't do much. It was another Secret Service agent who investigated everything, found the suspects and turned the case over to the FBI. So JFK ended up not visiting Chicago. For this heroic action this Secret Service agent got called to Washington and was assigned to another job. He couldn't tell anyone about what had happened in Chicago. So when JFK got killed in Dallas, this agent wasn't there. If he had been there, JFK wouldn't have been killed.And Lee Harvey got accused to be the lone assassin.The Soviet moles knew very well who Lee Harvey was. So you can see this was a conspiracy at the highest level. The driver William Robert Greer shot JFK in the front, while Maurice Tempelsman shot JFK in the back from a distance. There were two shots.Maurice Tempelsman owns a diamond business and he does business with Russia. He speaks also Russian and travels frequently to Russia and Romania.
 
A third shooter may have been involved since three bullets were declared by the first physicians. Here is the video I find most compelling.

 
There were two shots. There no head shots. If there were head shots, then JFK's head would have been destroyed which wasn't. Take a look at the autopsy photos. As for the wound in his throat, it is too big to be a gun wound. I believe the doctors made that wound in his throat so that they could insert a tube there. They were trying to save his live.
 
There is a video of JFK saying he and the Americans don't want more war.


Many people on this planet believe that war and by this they usually mean invading/killing someone who is weaker demonstrates power. It does not.


From a political and economic point of view, economic colonisation is usually either a result of or is accompanied by military intervention or at least the credible threat of it.


Saying "we don't want war and the American people don't want war" is a nice thing to say, coming from a good man.


It is, however, not, how America wanted to be run. So JFK just did not fit. While the USA keeps saying they are freedom fighters and are liberating other countries, USA military bases are stationed all across the globe like a spiderweb, and the reality is that they USA killed more people than anyone else.

argonne1918 said:
Over the last 50 years there have been many, many theories about who wanted JFK dead and why. The only one that has made sense, at least to me, was that it was a Mafia "hit job". The Mafia wanted to stop the Senate hearings on the Mafia that JFK's brother Bobby was conducting. If they had killed Bobby then the President could just replace him and continue the hearings. But killing the top man would stop the hearings in their tracks. It did. Oswald's uncle was in the Mafia. Jack Ruby was the Mafia "pay off" man in Dallas. That's why he was allowed in the police station, everyone there knew him.
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My opinion about this is that while it would be interesting to know who killed JFK or M Monroe for that matter...


I believe these people were fighting for/promoting the truth and so they were going against the Establishment.


This planet is famous for not making that much sense, and the fact that the potential is never quite realised here, because people somehow just always end up in the wrong direction.


When I say the "truth" I mean the fact:


- there are aliens and UFOS around


- there is zero point energy around (free, non polluting energy)


- there is reincarnation around which is being totally repressed (lamas being chased away, kidnapped etc.)


- there is real leaders reincarnating yet the planet is still mostly run by followers trying to lead


- most of history we have to study disregards any cause and effect, making it blatantly obvious that it's nothing more than a PR exercise, serving whoever it may


So in other words, this planet could be a much better place with less work, more fun, less pollution, stronger relationships instead of the ones that go against the grain.


And that for one reason or another people who want to uncover this truth get assassinated.


So there are little details about how exactly this happened and who exactly killed JFK, at the end of the day it won't make much of a difference.


All in all I would say that our past lives are a continuation of each other and that our present life is also. I therefore think that your present life is/should give you many clues as to who you were because in many ways you are still the same person. It's like a river.


So while I don't mean to be antagonistic, if you have to look for famous people, books, history and have practically no one in your present life (in terms of people/activities/interests) which were part of the past, you are probably looking in the wrong direction.


I really don't mind you being JFK or whoever though, just saying that in your life (and the present moment and present life is always the most powerful), so that in your life the truth will help you the most, not whether you were famous, or even respected.


I was emailing a guy who thought that the current Turkish prime minister is the reincarnation of Hitler. He assembled the whole 3rd reich from famous people including Obama. I have to say that I did not find this realistic and I don't agree with his assessments at all.


At the same time he had also uncovered another life of his, which I thought was credible.


As he had a keen interest in ww2, and is a retired intelligence analyst in this life (CIA), so I am very certain that he was in ww2 and that he also must have been quite important/significant in ww2.


I however believe that he was side tracked when it came to Hitler, Obama and the Turks.


The truth is that it's not actually that pleasant to be Hitler and since people who are him will have a current life that links into that past life one way or another, I doubt they will broadcast it.


(and yeah I believe Hitler was fighting the "nazis").

KenJ said:
Here is an interesting link that has further links at the bottom of it. Each of them describe the head-shot.
http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/autopsy.htm
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Also, looking at actual current affairs, and take Afghanistan as an example:


Afghanistan is a key poppy farming country and while it is their culture and history to grow poppies, the scale of it is now staggering. This creates dependency. The country's economy is totally dependent on selling an illegal drug. In terms of GDP, their GDP is coming from poppies and aid.


This means that by definition, they are part of organised crime. It is however institutionalised, and is now in the mechanics of the economy.


Since the USA military has a base there and are present in the country, it would be very difficult to imagine that they


a. dont know about this


b. dont participate in it


c. dont benefit from it


They may indeed view it as payment for keeping the "peace" in Afghanistan. The USA army cost money. And someones gotta pay for it.


So from the recreational use poppy farming the country has become the hotbed of crime.


So when you imagine the CIA or any other spies, try image the real thing as opposed to a fantasy like Agatha Christie/Inspector Morse type setting, or some sort of a Hollywood movie.


I am not knocking the USA as such, crime is global. So apologies to any Americans on here.

Marilu said:
In 1961 JFK sent French President Charles de Gaulle a handwritten note, signed by him, that he had information that the KGB had infiltrated the French Intelligence Service at the very high levels. A research was done but nothing ever came out. The KGB also infiltrated the CIA. The CIA sought for decades for one Soviet mole in the CIA, but without any success. His code name was Sasha. He spoke French and came from Eastern Europe. This infiltration of the French Intelligence Service by the Soviets got called the Sapphire Affair. When the CIA was in Congo during the sixties, Maurice Tempelsman was there and he was the
boss of a CIA agent who was working for him in Maurice's diamond business.


When I said that William Robert wore a blue sapphire ring, I thought it had something to do with an actual ring, but it is about a spy ring. Figuring this all out is not very easy, but God is helping me to sort this out. The truth has to come out.
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Maurice and Natasha came to the U.S. looking for ways to infiltrate into the highest circles of the U.S. government. One way was to look for influential spouses. Maurice married into a prominent banking family, while Natasha married a man with connections to the spy agencies, and other government agencies. Thanks to this marriage, Maurice was able to enter into these agencies and he started to climb the stairs up and make friends along the way. He later made these friends disappear and came with his own people, they came disguised as real Americans, fooling the American people. Oswald Lee Harvey knew about this and he warned the Kennedy brothers. Maurice real name is Jeanique or Janick, and he is a French gypsy born in Romania. Maurice became some kind of director at a government agency and he brought Vladimir the ex-KGB agent or KGB agent in, and from there on it became easier to bring more of their people to the U.S.
 
Marilyn Monroe was JFK's friend. When he needed someone to send messages to his associates, he used her to deliver those messages. Who would expect a play bunny doing this? She also delivered messages to Kenneth, one of JFK's associates.They all worked together with other people to unmask Maurice and his people.
 
The only woman JFK loved besides his wife was Inga Arvard. And he loved her deeply, but he had to break up his romance with her. The problem was that Inga was a spy for the enemy and JFK fell in love with her. He was madly in love with her. He met her again later, and this time she told him that they had a daughter together. She didn't want to tell him, but their daughter was in danger and Inga needed Jack's help. Luckily for both nothing happened to their daughter. They were able to rescue their daughter.
 
It was possible for you to be Kennedy and the German soldier, but you would have to die during WW1. Maybe try to follow that trail.


Where are you from?
 
Natasha married a soldier from the Navy or Army so that she and Maurice could have access to the government agencies as this soldier had connections with several agencies. Thanks to this soldier Maurice started to work for a government agency. The friend of the soldier who helped Maurice get in was later murdered and Maurice took then his place. The man above Maurice was also murdered and Maurice took his place, there is when he came with Vladimir. Before the friend of the soldier died he told the soldier that they had enemies in high places. The soldier had worked for the agency without being a worker there. His friend had asked him to help him. The soldier had helped the agency captured Javier, who was into drug trafficking. The agency would pay the soldier, but he never received any payment. Suddenly the soldier became the bad guy and Javier got released. As it turned out, Maurice had business dealing with this Javier from Miami. The wife of the soldier lied that the soldier was beating her. The soldier later discovered her Russian passport.
 
The soldier asked one of his female friends to help him expose Maurice and Vladimir. And he also asked his black friend Martin to help him. His female friend delivered secret messages to his friend Kenneth dressed as a play bunny. Kenneth contacted a high boss at the FBI and they investigated Maurice and Vladimir and Javier.It is then that it was discovered that Maurice is really a French speaking Gypsy born in Romania, who attended the KGB institute in Moscow where he met Natasha. Vladimir was their professor. Maurice's real name is Jeanique or Janick and he speaks with an European accent.
 
Before dying Jack told his wife to get out of the country. Don't trust anyone not even your own shadow. JFK Jr. vowed to come back and take revenge for the murder of his father. He got help from a retired FBI agent to reopen his father's case and he found out after many investigations that the real assassins of his father are Maurice Tempelsman and William Robert Greer. William Robert at one point of his life repented, but Maurice never repented.
 
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