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Have you asked Kade what color hair his father and/or Todd had - - as well as Nick and Emmy?

I think the car he describes is around 1930-ish. I figure he wouldn't have had a new car, so I'm thinking he lived "in poverty" (as so many did at that time) in the late 30's or early 40's. There were plenty of homes during that time that didn't have electric, especially in rural areas.

Here is an ice box link - - maybe he can look at the pictures and find one that he "remembers" and you may be able to get an idea of year model from it.
Also, here is a link to searching periodicals/newspaper obits: http://www.ancestry.com/learn/ContentCenters/contentCenter.aspx?page=newspaper&sp=tips
 
Moon tag game.

Hi, I'm new to this forum, I do seem to have some memories that may be past life memories and I'm thinking about posting them somewhere in this forum later on. But anyway, I want to mention that I searched the internet for "Moon Tag" and I found it!!, I found a board version of the game
made by Parker Brothers in 1957, I saved a picture of the box that the game came in, and on the top of the box there is a picture of a smiling moon with stars and little elves swirling about it, and it looks like the little elves are trying to avoid being tagged by the moon. So I think that it is obvious that the "Moon tag" Kade mentioned was indeed a real game. The version Kade is talking about may have come before the board game version of it. So this could be a number of decades before 1957. Also it looks like Kade's other mother was speaking english since the game was refered to as being "Moon tag" in that life also. Maybe those other foreign sounding words Kade said were from different past lives. I can e-mail a picture of the "Moon tag" game box to anyone who wants a picture of it, just send me an e-mail requesting that picture. Maybe there is some way you can get Kade to talk about the area where he lived when he was with his other mother, knowing the names of towns where people lived in his past life would help a lot.
Hope this helps some,
Wizard
 
Hi Wizard, :)
Welcome to the forum!

We would love to hear about your memories!
You can post them in the Past Life Memories section whenever you like. ;)
We look forward to know you better!
 
Welcome Wizard!

What an interesting find you made! :thumbsup:

I hope you'll share your memories with us ~ whenever you're comfortable. Make yourself at home. :D

Ailish
 
Hi Wizard,
Welcome to the forum. Would be interested in hearing your memories when you're comfortable.
Vicky
 
Hi Kitn,

How's Kade doing? Have you had a chance to look at the "Moon Tag" box? Maybe Kade will recognize it if you show him. ;) Please keep us posted on your fascinating little guy!


Ailish:)
 
Ice boxes and cupboards

I have been reading Kade's story with great interest and I wanted to share an observation or two. I was born in 1941 and one of my early childhood memories, (age 3 or 4,) involves my mother being mad at me because I would stand on the edge of the drip pan under the ice box and flood the floor with the melt water. I stood on it to reach something in the ice box. I remember the excitement of the ice deliveries, with the ice man's truck stopping out front and the huge sharp-ended tongs he used to pull blocks of ice from the straw in the back of the truck. He would knock some chips off the edges of the block and leave them in the straw. The other children and I loved to "steal" these chips that he left for us, and suck on them. What a treat on a hot summer day! We lived in Des Moines, Iowa then.
Also, I have always called my kitchen cupboards "Cupboards" as has my mother. She was born and raised in North Dakota. Cabinets sound affected.
 
Red light-Green light game

I was born in the late 1940's and I remember as a child I played some kind of game where if someone yelled out "stop" that you had to freeze, this sounds like a version of the Red light-Green light game. It sounds like the idea for using the name "Red light Green light" for the name of a game came from the actions of a traffic light. If this is the case then you could take into consideration that the first electric stop light was put into use in 1920 which had red green and yellow lights and couple that fact with type of car Kade said his other mother had, the (Chity Chity Bang Bang type of car) those type of cars were in existence in the time period of roughly 1907 to about the 1930's, I think one might be able get a idea of the time period that Kade's other Mother lived in, which then could be from somewhere around 1920 to 1930's.
I've done a lot a research on genealogy and have found my Swedish/Finnish ancestry back to the 1500's. I think it would be a good idea to try to apply the research methods used in genealogy to research in reincarnation and to try to possibly establish the time periods people lived in in their past lives. The next thing that I'll want to try to do is to try to figure out where Kade's other mother lived, and also I want try to possibly find in genealogical records, the names of the of the people that Kade mentioned lived in his past life (Sein, Patsy, etc). Hope everyone can understand what I'm saying, I'm not very good at writing and I'm just beginning
to learn how to use this forum.

Wizard
 
Welcome to the forum Wizard! :)

You write very clearly and well, don't worry. :thumbsup: You have interesting ideas and I hope Kitn will read them soon.

This is such a mystery and so many people are genuinely interested in it. I really hope Kitn and Kade will find out one day about his past!

Karoliina
 
Welcome Wizard, and thank you for finding the box for the game Moon Tag. I will show it to him tomorrow.

I have been bed bound, lol. My loving grandson gave me strep throat, which turned into broncities and pharangitis. I am doing better. It is not fun getting sick when your older; it takes so long to get better.

Kade said his mother had blonde hair, he and his sister had blonde hair and his mother wore braids. When I ask him about clothes he said he wore what he wears now. I have never asked him if they had a car, but I will next time he brings it up. I believed they lived in a rural area because he said no police came to their house. They may have been farmers.

I don't think Todd was his father. He said his father died, but I do not know if Todd was a step father or boyfriend. He could have been an uncle. I found an article about a Todd who lived with his brother and their three children. The mother refused to throw Todd out. Todd returned to the home and killed the father, mother, older son, daughter and 22 month old boy. But they were stabbed not shot as Kade described. Also this was only within the last 10 years.

Kade is busy learning plus and minus the last week and is doing very well for his age. He is such an eager learner. I swear he has a memory like an elephant.

He is coming over tomorrow and if he says anything I will post.
 
Hi Kitn! :)

I hope you recover soon! We all missed you here! :)
The article you found is very interesting... Where did that family live?
Now i am wondering if you can find pictures of them and see if they look like Kade described...
Keep us posted and get some rest! :)
 
I showed Kade the image of the Moon Tag box. He knew right away he exclaimed "thats moon tag!" He wanted to play it right away. He said "click on it grammy" LOL, he thought he could play it on the computer. He also said "I played that with my other mother." I tried to find out what was inside the box, but had no luck. He said there is dice in the box. I will try to find out. Kade's mother said it may be a boxed version of a game played earlier.
Thanks for all the help. I will write Hasbro and see if they can tell me what comes in the box and how to play it. Kade said you have to tag it.
 
Board games

Hi,
I think this is astounding that Kade recognized that Moon tag game right away. I checked
a list of the different type of games made by by Parker Brothers and according to the list they only released that game in 1957 so apparently that was the only time they made that game. This could mean that Kades other mother was alive in 1957. That type of car that Kade said they had might of actually been a convertible. Since that Moon tag game was made in 1957, and if his other mother may have had the game around for ten years, she may have been alive even in the 1960s. Its very possble that Kade may be remembering something like 4 or 5 different past lives and sometimes those past life memories get jumbled together somewhat making it difficult to seperate things into their proper time periods, like when he talked about that they used candles- that
memory could of come from a past life in the 1800's or maybe 1700's.
Those old board games are collectibes and can be found of auctions and sites where they sell
collectibles. The Moon tag game is also sold on those sites, so if you look around on the internet you might be able purchase that Moon tag game or ask them what all is inside the box that it comes in. I don't know how to put a link in my posts yet, but I'll try, so here is a link to a list of the different games made by Parker Brothers, you can see that the Moon tag game was
released in 1957.

http://realpriceguides.com/parker7.asp


I was so excited when I learned that Kade immediatlely recognized that Moon tag game box, my mind
was just spinning from the excitement.

Later on I'm going to post some of my own memories (which may be past life memories) somewhere in the forum, one of my memories is of being an orphan in a country where there had been a war.

Wizard
 
Wow, that's so exciting that Kade recognized the game! :thumbsup: Thanks for giving us an update!

I can't believe that he's learning addition and subtraction already! What a bright little guy! :D

I hope you feel better soon, Kitn!!!


Wizard - I look forward to reading about your memories :D

Ailish:)
 
Thanks everyone for all the help. He may not have had electric or indoor plumbing in a rural area; especially the southern states. As I wrote before my grandmother did not have those pleasures until late 60's. She did not get indoor plumbing until 1970. I remember the year well because my uncle Donny, who was my age, was killed in a car wreck that year. My parents went to Texas to be sure she used the insurance money to buy a home. Donny would have wanted his mom to have a home of her own. That was the first home she had with heat and plumbing.

My father told me Kade may mistake a kerosene lamp or an alladin lamp for a candle. He could be right. In 1967 I had an old 1948 car which ran well. There were old cars still on the road then, more so in the south. I also know in the 60's when we stayed with Grandma a buck board pulled by mules came to her house to get us to take us to school. So he may have been in the southern states. We also had a 1060 white Pontiac convertible. He could be remembering a convertible.

His foreign words could have been learned in a home with someone who spoke both languages.

Moreover, he could be having jumbled memories. Now I have a time frame to seach for the bad man Todd. If Kade remembers the game, then I would say I should look from 1957 and up a few years. I never knew of that game and I was born in the late forties.

I emailed Hasbro and I hope they respond.
 
Hi,
When I went to grade school back in 1955 I was living in a rural area and in Northern Minnesota and in the morning, a nearby farmer would stop by and pick up me and my brothers and sisters and take us to school in a Model A Ford, Farmers used to keep those old cars to use as a second car. In the other rural areas that I lived in as a child we did not have indoor plumbing,
we also had one of those old wooden ice boxes but did'nt use it at that time, because we also had an electric refrigerator. My grandmother did not have indoor plumbing even in 1962, she also had one of those old wooden wall phones with a crank on it. I read an article a few years back and it told about how one of those old telephone companies (wooden wall crank phone network) had went out of operation as late as 1980. So people used these old fashioned things for a long time. My great uncle lived in a cabin without electricity and used kerosene lamps, this was in 1962.So the things Kade had been talking about (like the ice box) could have been in the 1950's or 1960's.

I have been looking at at old U.S. census records trying to find a family where the name of the mother was "Sein", I did find some but there were none where the children were named Emmy or Nicholas or variations of those names. I also saw in the census records families where the mothers name was "Sene" there was a lot of those but I did'nt find any that matched the rest of the family. I'm not sure how the names Sein or Sene are pronounced. The U.S census records that are available cover the years 1930 back to 1790. It could be that Kade's other mother was born after 1930. I forgot to mentioned that I also tried to find in the census records a family where a Patsy was the mother and Sein or Sene was her child, (grandma Patsy could have been Sein's mother). I'm going to continue searching, there are all kinds of other records to search through.

I think that Kades other Mother spoke English because she used the word "Lullabyes" and also the Moon tag game was called Moon tag in that other life. Apparently, in that other life the family lived in an area that went though seasonal changes from fall to winter because of Kade saying something like the Kallavala festival was "in the winter", and when pressing leaves you "wait till they fall" (this could mean the falling of leaves in the autumn). So I'm thinking they could have lived in the northern U.S. somewhere.

Wizard
 
Thank you for helping search. I would not know how to search census records. I believe your right about the era. Now to find an area. I too remember when the grocery/gas station owner would come a mile or so in his truck to pick up someone if they had a telephone call. He had the only phone in the area and if you saw him coming, you knew it was an emergency.
It was one of those old phone's you described; although I don't remember a crank.

Grandma Patsy is his other grandmother now. He only has two grandmothers; me and Patsy. Sein, from what I could find is pronounced scene; just as Kade pronounced it. I also found that Sein is used when a daughter is named or carries the same name as her mother.

I still believe he may have been Finnish. There are many who settled in the upper northern states. Minnesota is one of the states.

Kade's mom came over last night to play computer games after she got Kade asleep. She told me after they left here yesterday that Kade wanted to play "freeze tag". She asked me if I ever played it with him and I said no. She said he knew how to play it. She tagged him and he stood there frozen. She told him your it now and he said you have to tag me to unfreeze me. I know my generation played tag, but none of my six children nor any of my grandchildren (when I have been around) have played tag, freeze tag, statute although I do know they played hide and seek.

I think Kade remembers more than he is saying. Lately, he does not speak very often of his other life.
 
Freeze tag is still a favorite game of children. My son is ten and they play it on the play ground at school during recess, just as I did as a child. I think I learned the game at around 4 years old from older children in the neighborhood. Is it possible he has seen other children playing the game, like neighbor children?
 
I think it's Northern Minnesota...

trixie said:
Hello Kitn. I have just been reading about your grandson. I live in northern Minnesota in small town by the name of Virginia. Kalevala is a very familiar term. It is Finnish and we have a historic group here called the Ladies of Kalevala and they have Kalevala Hall. A couple of times a year they have celebrations. We use the term "goodies" all the time... even the public schools use that term. It's "goodies" or "coffee an" to mean coffee and bars or cookies. There are mines here and of course we have snow.
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trixie said:
Hello all. We do use the term "cupboard" here in Northern Minnesota. A pantry is more of a small closet; a hutch is free standing; a cabinet is usually in the bathroom. The leaves too is a craft thing we did in elementary school. If is a little Finn he will know what a sauna is!

Kitn, here are a few links you can check out.
http://www.ironrangeresearchcenter.org/

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For every Kalevala Township ("land of heroes" to its Finnish settlers)
dnr.state.mn.us

http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/art/article163e.htm#Alku
http://www.ihrc.umn.edu/collage/fas/exhibits/finnfest2002.htm
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We still have to find out what 'daejavaha' and 'malingo' are.q
 
I wish Lemurian was online... :(
He lives in Minessota too and mabye he could help some. ;)
 
Yes, we played freeze tag, too. That was between 1987-1990, when I was in the younger grades in elementary school. By the fifth grade we kind of lost interest in playing "children's" games and moved on to other things :D I also recall my aunt telling me that she played it as a child, too. That would have been in about 1960, when she was around ten.:thumbsup:


Ailish
 
Kalevala, baskets etc.

Hi,

If I remember right I think Kade said that you brought things like baskets and
goodies to Kalevala. Finns and other people use to have what they
called "Baskets Socials" where you brought baskets filled all kinds of goodies.
These baskets full of goodies were sold to the highest bidder and money from these basket sales went to things like charities, causes, etc. I am including some links to pages that mention these Basket Socials.

Heres a link to a different page telling about the baskets full of goodies at the
basket socials:

http://sydaby.eget.net/swe/emi_ref.htm

Here is a link to a page where there is a pictue of building that is now called "Kalevala hall" in Virginia Minnesota.

http://gallery.lib.umn.edu/exhibits/show/juhla/temperance

The Finns use to have buildings that they called "Finn Halls" that they used for
different events and entertainment. They may still have some around.

Wizard
 
Wizard!!!! Great job! It must be helpful to live in the area.
Kitn,
How about checking in Virginia, Minnesota for murders etc? Sometimes, I get 'feelings' about things and since your very first post, I have felt that Kade's last life was in Minnesota. That doesn't mean I'm right but with the info. that Wizard has provided, it might be worth a check.
Vicky
 
Hi Vicky,

I looked around on the internet for murders in Virginia Minnesota but I could'nt
find anything that would match, I don't have skills in the area in the area of
solving murders so I'll leave that up to somebody else. My skills are centered around finding time periods, names, the types of things people had in the the past
(like types of houses etc.), things about different cultures, types of clothes people wore in the past etc.
The Kalevala is a collection of old poems and legends. There is a Kalevala day in Finland (February 28th). I think that some of the Finns in the U.S.
the ones who are in the organizations called "Ladies and Knights of Kalevala"
could of had one of their Basket Socials on this day also. Being that they brought baskets full of goodies to these Basket Socials, this could be where
kade is getting the name Kalevala from. Since Kalevala day is on February 28,
this could be why Kade said it is in the winter.

Wizard
 
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