Grandson and the cupboard (new thread)
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I was just reading the most recent message about ur grandson, and it made me think of some neighbors I had growing up. I just turned 30 this Summer, and the Kid's were all around my age so we spent alot of time hanging out. This Family had 9 kid's, and lived in a very small 3 room house w/ a attic. They had NO INDOOR PLUMBING. And, just the basest of Electricity. And, that was just in L.Room and Kitchen. With the rest of the room's they either used Candles or Gas Lanterns. I live in Indiana, and that is rare here, but I do know that in lot's of Southern States it still goes on Deep in the Country. So, maybe his Lifetime wasn't sooooooooo long ago.~~ Jill
I was just reading the most recent message about ur grandson, and it made me think of some neighbors I had growing up. I just turned 30 this Summer, and the Kid's were all around my age so we spent alot of time hanging out. This Family had 9 kid's, and lived in a very small 3 room house w/ a attic. They had NO INDOOR PLUMBING. And, just the basest of Electricity. And, that was just in L.Room and Kitchen. With the rest of the room's they either used Candles or Gas Lanterns. I live in Indiana, and that is rare here, but I do know that in lot's of Southern States it still goes on Deep in the Country. So, maybe his Lifetime wasn't sooooooooo long ago.~~ Jill
Kitn
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Merry Christmas!
My sister had a good idea, she said ask him how they got their water. I have not asked him about clothing. That is something I will also ask next time he brings it up.
When I took him potty I asked him how he washed his hands at his other mother's house. He got on the sink and said like this; squirting the liquid soap and rubbing them very well. "Like this", he said. I meant the water but he was showing me how to wash. I didn't ask anything else.
He still calls my dog Diyati once in a while. He said he had a dog then. Maybe that was his dogs name and Sophie reminds him of it.
Yesterday, I was talking to him about "Nicholas" meaning Saint Nick. His eyes got wide open when I said I was going to call Nicholas. He asked me if I knew Nick and I said no. He had mentioned before that his older brother's name was Nick. I am not sure if this is true or if he is relating it to a story or Saint Nick. I will see if he is consistent.
My sister had a good idea, she said ask him how they got their water. I have not asked him about clothing. That is something I will also ask next time he brings it up.
When I took him potty I asked him how he washed his hands at his other mother's house. He got on the sink and said like this; squirting the liquid soap and rubbing them very well. "Like this", he said. I meant the water but he was showing me how to wash. I didn't ask anything else.
He still calls my dog Diyati once in a while. He said he had a dog then. Maybe that was his dogs name and Sophie reminds him of it.
Yesterday, I was talking to him about "Nicholas" meaning Saint Nick. His eyes got wide open when I said I was going to call Nicholas. He asked me if I knew Nick and I said no. He had mentioned before that his older brother's name was Nick. I am not sure if this is true or if he is relating it to a story or Saint Nick. I will see if he is consistent.
Kitn
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Welcome Fairplay
I was a skeptic, until my grandson came along. I am still keeping an open mind. The books Carol Bowman has written has been a great help to me. I did not know how to handle my grandsons remarks or memories. Now I know how to approach him without leading.
I felt sorry for him today. They came over for dinner and he had a bad headache. He has never had one before that I know of. They had to leave early so he could go home and rest. He is usally so active and he just stood with his head down on the arm rest. This Christmas he is three and was so looking forward to a good time.
The forum is most helpful. If you have memories you would like to share you can post them. Again, welcome....
I was a skeptic, until my grandson came along. I am still keeping an open mind. The books Carol Bowman has written has been a great help to me. I did not know how to handle my grandsons remarks or memories. Now I know how to approach him without leading.
I felt sorry for him today. They came over for dinner and he had a bad headache. He has never had one before that I know of. They had to leave early so he could go home and rest. He is usally so active and he just stood with his head down on the arm rest. This Christmas he is three and was so looking forward to a good time.
The forum is most helpful. If you have memories you would like to share you can post them. Again, welcome....
Which world do you live in, fairplay? Believers in reincarnation number in billions. Hindus, Buddhists, Jains have known of reincarnation and have studied it for thousands of years. And this is not a belief like other kinds of beliefs such as belief in religion. One can easily dispense with those. God knows they are not useful. Reincarnation is something you can verify for yourself. Actually, it is something everyone will come to realize sooner or later.fairplay said:..... am surprised that there are so many believers on this subject of reincarnation. I thought I was alone.....
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Poor little guy made two trips to the emergency room Christmas Eve. Lucky they live 2 minutes from the hospital and it was not crowded. He has strep throat. I did not know a fever could cause such a headache. They gave him popsicles which cooled him down quickly and antibiodics so hopefully he will be his old busy self again soon.
I hope he feels better soon.Hi Kitn,
I'm curious to know if Kade said anything while he had the fever. My son will often talk what sounds like either nonsense or another language when he has a high fever. A psychic told me that high fevers can disconnect one from reality and the realm of their memories is easier to access.
Vicky
I'm curious to know if Kade said anything while he had the fever. My son will often talk what sounds like either nonsense or another language when he has a high fever. A psychic told me that high fevers can disconnect one from reality and the realm of their memories is easier to access.
Vicky
Kitn
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Ice Box
Kade is feeling much better. I don't think he said much of anything when he had a fever except his head hurting so badly. He spent the night with me last night. He wanted chocolate milk and as I got the milk from the refrigerator I casually asked him "did you have a refrigerator at your other mother's house?" He said no. I then asked him "how did she keep your milk cold?" He pointed to a small microwave on a cart and said "we put ice in that" I said you put ice in a microwave and he replied "no you put the ice in a box."
I was born in the later forties. We always had a refrigerator. My father was born in 1921 and I know his family had an ice box. He told me how they buried ice from the winter underground and covered it with hay or straw. Now I know the "other" family did not have indoor plumbing or electric. They used candles for lighting. But he also says they had a car. I showed him pictures of cars online. He said he had seen one like a white one we saw on an antique site. It was an open air type. I don't know much about cars but the one he saw looked kind of like the car in the old movie Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, but newer. I can't tell you what year it was.
In my bathroom I have two pictures of outhouses; one on each side of the mirror. When I took him potty I took one off the wall and showed him the picture. I asked him if he knew what it was and he said " it is a building, is my other mother in there?" I said no and put the picture back. He did not ask any questions about the outhouse picture.
Kade is feeling much better. I don't think he said much of anything when he had a fever except his head hurting so badly. He spent the night with me last night. He wanted chocolate milk and as I got the milk from the refrigerator I casually asked him "did you have a refrigerator at your other mother's house?" He said no. I then asked him "how did she keep your milk cold?" He pointed to a small microwave on a cart and said "we put ice in that" I said you put ice in a microwave and he replied "no you put the ice in a box."
I was born in the later forties. We always had a refrigerator. My father was born in 1921 and I know his family had an ice box. He told me how they buried ice from the winter underground and covered it with hay or straw. Now I know the "other" family did not have indoor plumbing or electric. They used candles for lighting. But he also says they had a car. I showed him pictures of cars online. He said he had seen one like a white one we saw on an antique site. It was an open air type. I don't know much about cars but the one he saw looked kind of like the car in the old movie Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, but newer. I can't tell you what year it was.
In my bathroom I have two pictures of outhouses; one on each side of the mirror. When I took him potty I took one off the wall and showed him the picture. I asked him if he knew what it was and he said " it is a building, is my other mother in there?" I said no and put the picture back. He did not ask any questions about the outhouse picture.
Kitn
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Kade has not said anything about a former life or other mother and family lately. He may spend the night tonght and if he says anything I will let you know. We don't ask him questions unless he brings the subject up first.
He met a little boy next door and is thrilled to have a friend. His friend told him he can play but he is not allowed to say bad words, play fight or play with toy guns because "only bad people have guns." Kade does not have any toy guns except a nerf blaster. He does sometimes get aggressive for no reason. He does want to play fight with his toy characters, but we try to discourage that.
I wonder sometimes if the behavior he displays playing with his toy men is caused by some of the memories (?) he talks about.
He met a little boy next door and is thrilled to have a friend. His friend told him he can play but he is not allowed to say bad words, play fight or play with toy guns because "only bad people have guns." Kade does not have any toy guns except a nerf blaster. He does sometimes get aggressive for no reason. He does want to play fight with his toy characters, but we try to discourage that.
I wonder sometimes if the behavior he displays playing with his toy men is caused by some of the memories (?) he talks about.
MoonDansyr
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Hi Kitn
I just finished reading both threads about Kade. He's quite adorable! In reading everything, I had a few thoughts.
First and foremost - - work on this *now* - - don't wait until he's older because things will begin to fade, the further from that life he travels, and he may end up with some fears and phobias because of something not being resolved. Also, he may wake up one day with every memory completely gone.
I read in one of the posts about the kalevale (sp?) festivities. Have you shown Kade pictures of a tobaggon?
Also, have you considered finding Finnish recipes and recreating them? Especially that pea soup and ... hmmm ... there was something else that began with an L ... lentin? I don't remember - - but also some "Finnish Goodies" (homemade cookies and candies) and seeing if any of these things trigger anything.
About the lullaby you sang to him when he mentioned that his other mother used to sing lullabies to him - - have you researched any Finnish Lullabyes? If you could find some CDs (that he could listen to) in the actual Fin language, that may give another trigger.
The Leaf pressing/painting - - I'm going to continue to research this. There has to be something. His memories on this are too specific to dismiss. However, I was recently researching a craft I did with my grandmother only 30 years ago and can't find anything on it - - so, unfortunately, just because something once existed doesn't mean it's on the net somewhere.
The one thing that I kept finding when I looked up the combination of sein and tod was that I kept coming up with something that meant to be dead. Is he maybe stating that all of them were "tod" (or dead)?
Could it be possible that these other family members: his other mother, Emmy, Nick, etc. could have already reincarnated as well? Have you asked if he'd seen any of them when he was in heaven? It's possible that his (Dina) mother is the "other" mother or Emmy or even Nick, reincarnated. YOU could even be one of them.
And I am so sorry for the loss of your daughter and husband. I can't even imagine how difficult these losses have been for you. My heart truly goes out to you.
Finally, I just wanted to add something from my own life that has no real relavance to Kade, but provoked my own thoughts that I wanted to share with you. My youngest daughter (who will be 7 in April) was born a month early. We had picked out the name Maggie Kathleen for her. However, when we looked at her, the name just didn't fit at all. Why? I have no idea. I have no idea what a Maggie Kathleen is *supposed* to look like! Nonetheless. We thought on it for a couple days and then it just suddenly popped into my head: Emily Sage. My husband immediately agreed (almost too eagerly) - - and as soon as we told the nursery staff, they all acted like it was just perfect for her. Well, our other daughter, who is only 14 months older, immedately began calling her Emmy and we all often now call her that as a kind of nickname for Emily. From the moment this child entered our lives, we've felt there was something "more" with her. Before she could talk or sit up, she was *giving* affection. She would wrap her arms around my head and hug me like there was no tomorrow. She loves from the very bottom of her heart. Also, she would *study* me and look deep into my eyes and then just start crying like her little heart was broken. It used to just kill me because she was so tiny - - she couldn't even talk yet. But I would hold her lovingly close and sing to her and she'd quiet. As she got a little older, she'd wrap her arm across my shoulders (the way a man does with his wife/date) and she'd gently play with my hair. Other times, she would stroke my cheek the way a mother does to a child. I often asked her if she remembered what her "other" life was like before she came to us and she said she didn't remember. Also, semi-loud noises freak her out in an extremely traumatic way. I *know* there's something in her deep subconscious, but we've never gotten enough clues to even begin to know where to search.
All of that being said, I'm wondering if Kade's former self pronounced the name Emily as Emmy because he was close in age to her.
BTW, I used to live in Memphis, TN - - I now live in Southern Indiana (near Louisville, KY).
Don't give up - - I feel certain you're going to find all of the pieces of this puzzle.
FWIW, my gut tells me that he lived in a North American Finnish village somewhere - - maybe Canada or northern US. I think because some of his words are the same but different. This could also have to do with him being so young when he died in his last life, as well, as it takes children awhile to learn correct pronunciations. I think it was incredibly sweet that when he was playing "bury" with you, that he crawled in with you and told you not to be scared - - that'd you just go to sleep and then wake up. That shows such compassion on his part. He's really a sweetheart.
Oh, another thing, you may have already done this, but if not, you might want to research what year the ice box came around - - as well as the type of gun that he pointed out. That might help narrow the timeframe at least a little bit.
If I think of anything else, I will certainly post it. I'm going to do some research on all of this, for sure. I wish you SO MUCH luck with all of this!
I just finished reading both threads about Kade. He's quite adorable! In reading everything, I had a few thoughts.
First and foremost - - work on this *now* - - don't wait until he's older because things will begin to fade, the further from that life he travels, and he may end up with some fears and phobias because of something not being resolved. Also, he may wake up one day with every memory completely gone.
I read in one of the posts about the kalevale (sp?) festivities. Have you shown Kade pictures of a tobaggon?
Also, have you considered finding Finnish recipes and recreating them? Especially that pea soup and ... hmmm ... there was something else that began with an L ... lentin? I don't remember - - but also some "Finnish Goodies" (homemade cookies and candies) and seeing if any of these things trigger anything.
About the lullaby you sang to him when he mentioned that his other mother used to sing lullabies to him - - have you researched any Finnish Lullabyes? If you could find some CDs (that he could listen to) in the actual Fin language, that may give another trigger.
The Leaf pressing/painting - - I'm going to continue to research this. There has to be something. His memories on this are too specific to dismiss. However, I was recently researching a craft I did with my grandmother only 30 years ago and can't find anything on it - - so, unfortunately, just because something once existed doesn't mean it's on the net somewhere.
The one thing that I kept finding when I looked up the combination of sein and tod was that I kept coming up with something that meant to be dead. Is he maybe stating that all of them were "tod" (or dead)?
Could it be possible that these other family members: his other mother, Emmy, Nick, etc. could have already reincarnated as well? Have you asked if he'd seen any of them when he was in heaven? It's possible that his (Dina) mother is the "other" mother or Emmy or even Nick, reincarnated. YOU could even be one of them.
And I am so sorry for the loss of your daughter and husband. I can't even imagine how difficult these losses have been for you. My heart truly goes out to you.
Finally, I just wanted to add something from my own life that has no real relavance to Kade, but provoked my own thoughts that I wanted to share with you. My youngest daughter (who will be 7 in April) was born a month early. We had picked out the name Maggie Kathleen for her. However, when we looked at her, the name just didn't fit at all. Why? I have no idea. I have no idea what a Maggie Kathleen is *supposed* to look like! Nonetheless. We thought on it for a couple days and then it just suddenly popped into my head: Emily Sage. My husband immediately agreed (almost too eagerly) - - and as soon as we told the nursery staff, they all acted like it was just perfect for her. Well, our other daughter, who is only 14 months older, immedately began calling her Emmy and we all often now call her that as a kind of nickname for Emily. From the moment this child entered our lives, we've felt there was something "more" with her. Before she could talk or sit up, she was *giving* affection. She would wrap her arms around my head and hug me like there was no tomorrow. She loves from the very bottom of her heart. Also, she would *study* me and look deep into my eyes and then just start crying like her little heart was broken. It used to just kill me because she was so tiny - - she couldn't even talk yet. But I would hold her lovingly close and sing to her and she'd quiet. As she got a little older, she'd wrap her arm across my shoulders (the way a man does with his wife/date) and she'd gently play with my hair. Other times, she would stroke my cheek the way a mother does to a child. I often asked her if she remembered what her "other" life was like before she came to us and she said she didn't remember. Also, semi-loud noises freak her out in an extremely traumatic way. I *know* there's something in her deep subconscious, but we've never gotten enough clues to even begin to know where to search.
All of that being said, I'm wondering if Kade's former self pronounced the name Emily as Emmy because he was close in age to her.
BTW, I used to live in Memphis, TN - - I now live in Southern Indiana (near Louisville, KY).
Don't give up - - I feel certain you're going to find all of the pieces of this puzzle.
FWIW, my gut tells me that he lived in a North American Finnish village somewhere - - maybe Canada or northern US. I think because some of his words are the same but different. This could also have to do with him being so young when he died in his last life, as well, as it takes children awhile to learn correct pronunciations. I think it was incredibly sweet that when he was playing "bury" with you, that he crawled in with you and told you not to be scared - - that'd you just go to sleep and then wake up. That shows such compassion on his part. He's really a sweetheart.
Oh, another thing, you may have already done this, but if not, you might want to research what year the ice box came around - - as well as the type of gun that he pointed out. That might help narrow the timeframe at least a little bit.
If I think of anything else, I will certainly post it. I'm going to do some research on all of this, for sure. I wish you SO MUCH luck with all of this!
MoonDansyr
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I found this and thought it was interesting:
http://www.helsinki.fi/kasv/nokol/kalevala.html
Here's a link to finnish music ... you can click on the folk music link on the left and through it, find links to CDs:http://www.fimic.fi/
Here's an actual voice audio that uses real player:http://virtual.finland.fi/stream/kalhe.ram
http://www.helsinki.fi/kasv/nokol/kalevala.html
Here's a link to finnish music ... you can click on the folk music link on the left and through it, find links to CDs:http://www.fimic.fi/
Here's an actual voice audio that uses real player:http://virtual.finland.fi/stream/kalhe.ram
Kitn
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MoonDansyr thank you for the interest in Kade. I have read so much and have gotten nowhere. I do thank you for the links. One link mentioned Hiawatha and I read that with interest because Kade showed interest once in an Indian cartoon movie; but I cannot remember the name. He said his other mother had braids like her but had blonde hair. I too believe Emmy is short for Emily. He still insists he has a brother and sister, but they died.
He has not been talking about another life lately. He talks more to me than his mother and I believe it is because he feels he may be betraying his now mommy. I told him that it was okay to have another mother but Dina is his mommy now. He looked surprised that it is okay.
Another of my grandsons was over yesterday. Kade has been playing with him last week. Bryce said Kade told him he had another mother but she died, she was shot, and now Dina is his mommy. I asked him if Kade had told him anything else and he said Kade said he has a sister and he used the word (sounds like) Bollo. I asked him what does that mean and he said he did not know.
I believe Kade is remembering more but he will not say. In time I am sure he will. I want him to feel comfortable talking about it so I don't ask anything. He may begin telling his cousin more of what he remembers instead of me or his mother. Safety is a big issue with Kade. Whatever happened must have been horrible. He did mention the other day when I took him potty that he had to be brave at his other mother's house and go by himself.
I will let him listen to the Finnish wav files of music and speech. He is not a sweet eater. He also does not care for meat. He is a vegetable eater and would rather have green beans or brocceli than a cookie. He also loves cheese.
I know what you mean when you said the name fits your daughter. Kade was suppose to have been named Bryce or Chase. His mother's niece had a boy 4 weeks before she did and she named her son Bryce. Chase was the next chosen name. When we went to the hospital nursery wing they have a memorial wall there. There were dozens of names on ceramic plaques and the name Kade was there. His mother decided then that was going to be his name. I cannot imagine him with any other name; it fits him so well.......
He has not been talking about another life lately. He talks more to me than his mother and I believe it is because he feels he may be betraying his now mommy. I told him that it was okay to have another mother but Dina is his mommy now. He looked surprised that it is okay.
Another of my grandsons was over yesterday. Kade has been playing with him last week. Bryce said Kade told him he had another mother but she died, she was shot, and now Dina is his mommy. I asked him if Kade had told him anything else and he said Kade said he has a sister and he used the word (sounds like) Bollo. I asked him what does that mean and he said he did not know.
I believe Kade is remembering more but he will not say. In time I am sure he will. I want him to feel comfortable talking about it so I don't ask anything. He may begin telling his cousin more of what he remembers instead of me or his mother. Safety is a big issue with Kade. Whatever happened must have been horrible. He did mention the other day when I took him potty that he had to be brave at his other mother's house and go by himself.
I will let him listen to the Finnish wav files of music and speech. He is not a sweet eater. He also does not care for meat. He is a vegetable eater and would rather have green beans or brocceli than a cookie. He also loves cheese.
I know what you mean when you said the name fits your daughter. Kade was suppose to have been named Bryce or Chase. His mother's niece had a boy 4 weeks before she did and she named her son Bryce. Chase was the next chosen name. When we went to the hospital nursery wing they have a memorial wall there. There were dozens of names on ceramic plaques and the name Kade was there. His mother decided then that was going to be his name. I cannot imagine him with any other name; it fits him so well.......
Kitn
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Kade has made two trips to the emergency room and two doctor visits since Saturday. He has broken out in a rash and we cannot figure out from what. It has to be an allergy of some sort. To me it looks like hives. Anyway, hopefully we will get this under control. He is on the predisone regime.
When his doctor was talking to Kade and his mother she made a statement that she wishes she knew what Kades IQ was? Last year Kade told the doctor he was five and she was checking that on his growth chart; his mom said he is not he is only three. Five is a number he wants to reach.....
When his doctor was talking to Kade and his mother she made a statement that she wishes she knew what Kades IQ was? Last year Kade told the doctor he was five and she was checking that on his growth chart; his mom said he is not he is only three. Five is a number he wants to reach.....
Karoliina
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You could also think whether he could get it from those traumatic PL memories. Stress and other mental factors can cause skin reactions etc.
I had a mystery rash at the age of 7 when my sister was born - it turned out it was because I was so jealous of my parents' attention. : angel :laugh:
I hope Kade will get better soon!
Karoliina
I had a mystery rash at the age of 7 when my sister was born - it turned out it was because I was so jealous of my parents' attention. : angel :laugh:
I hope Kade will get better soon!
Karoliina
MoonDansyr
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I was thinking the same thing, Karoliina!
Kitn
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Kade is much better now, thank you....He broke out last night but has not broke out at all today. I suppose the prednisone helped. We are thinking a change in laundry soap....we hope....
He was over today and he wanted to draw pictures. He asked me to draw a picture of his other daddy who is in Heaven. I made a stick man with a hat and he was satisfied. I asked him how his other daddy got to Heaven and he said "oh he died." So we proceeded to draw SpongeBob, Plankton, Patrick, Gary and Squidworm. He told me to draw something so I did. I drew a cabinet with a small shadow shaped like a boy inside it. He looked at it and said I know who that is, I said really who? He said that is me before when I was scared, but I am not scared anymore. He put some green dots near the head (tears). He also called it a cabinet instead of a cupboard as before.
I was kind of worried when he went to hospital and doctors afraid he would come out with some of his stories about another life. People would think we are encouraging him or telling him things because so many do not believe. He still brings up his other mother more than anything..
He was over today and he wanted to draw pictures. He asked me to draw a picture of his other daddy who is in Heaven. I made a stick man with a hat and he was satisfied. I asked him how his other daddy got to Heaven and he said "oh he died." So we proceeded to draw SpongeBob, Plankton, Patrick, Gary and Squidworm. He told me to draw something so I did. I drew a cabinet with a small shadow shaped like a boy inside it. He looked at it and said I know who that is, I said really who? He said that is me before when I was scared, but I am not scared anymore. He put some green dots near the head (tears). He also called it a cabinet instead of a cupboard as before.
I was kind of worried when he went to hospital and doctors afraid he would come out with some of his stories about another life. People would think we are encouraging him or telling him things because so many do not believe. He still brings up his other mother more than anything..
Kitn
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Moon Tag game
Yes I read the post from Sunny. I too had family that did not have modern household items. They lived in Texas. I live in the south now and do not know of anyone who does not at least have electricity; unless they do not pay their bill..However, I am sure if I traveled to the extreme south there would be some without these modern conveniences. The icebox I think gives me a large span of years to think about. He recognised a car once that he said he had seen and it looked like that Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car with open air style; it was white. He has not seen this movie.
He has mentioned his other father, just not so much. He said his father took him riding in the hills and brought him chocolate. He loved his father. I do not know what happened, but I assume he did not live in the home. Todd, he said, kissed his other mother and she liked him, but he was mean. From what I gather Todd lived in the home with them. I don't know if he would have been a live in boyfriend or stepdad. Kade was terrified of Todd.
Tonight Kade asked me to play a game with him and he called it Moon Tag. I asked him if he saw that on TV and he said no my other mother played it with me. I asked how do you play it and he poked me with his finger and said "tag your it." He has no other children here to play tag with and I have never heard of it being called Moon Tag. Anyone else played or heard of this game?
I looked online and I found a game from Spain in a Girl Scouting site but it is called Morning Stars and Moon....""This game could be played out of doors where a tree casts a long shadow. It is played inside mark a designated area to take the place of the shadow. One player is chosen to be the moon of IT, while the others are morning stars. The morning stars can run anywhere but the moon must always keep at least one foot inside the shadow. The stars run close to tease the moon. When the moon tags on of the morning stars, that player becomes the next moon.""
We talked about other games which I had played as a youngster. He had never heard of Red Rover or Red Light-Green Lite. He said he knows of a game when he says stop you have to freeze; to me that would be Red Light-Green Light. He said at his other house he played deck cards and dominos.
Yes I read the post from Sunny. I too had family that did not have modern household items. They lived in Texas. I live in the south now and do not know of anyone who does not at least have electricity; unless they do not pay their bill..However, I am sure if I traveled to the extreme south there would be some without these modern conveniences. The icebox I think gives me a large span of years to think about. He recognised a car once that he said he had seen and it looked like that Chitty Chitty Bang Bang car with open air style; it was white. He has not seen this movie.
He has mentioned his other father, just not so much. He said his father took him riding in the hills and brought him chocolate. He loved his father. I do not know what happened, but I assume he did not live in the home. Todd, he said, kissed his other mother and she liked him, but he was mean. From what I gather Todd lived in the home with them. I don't know if he would have been a live in boyfriend or stepdad. Kade was terrified of Todd.
Tonight Kade asked me to play a game with him and he called it Moon Tag. I asked him if he saw that on TV and he said no my other mother played it with me. I asked how do you play it and he poked me with his finger and said "tag your it." He has no other children here to play tag with and I have never heard of it being called Moon Tag. Anyone else played or heard of this game?
I looked online and I found a game from Spain in a Girl Scouting site but it is called Morning Stars and Moon....""This game could be played out of doors where a tree casts a long shadow. It is played inside mark a designated area to take the place of the shadow. One player is chosen to be the moon of IT, while the others are morning stars. The morning stars can run anywhere but the moon must always keep at least one foot inside the shadow. The stars run close to tease the moon. When the moon tags on of the morning stars, that player becomes the next moon.""
We talked about other games which I had played as a youngster. He had never heard of Red Rover or Red Light-Green Lite. He said he knows of a game when he says stop you have to freeze; to me that would be Red Light-Green Light. He said at his other house he played deck cards and dominos.
Ailish
Administrator Emerita
Hi Kitn,
Glad to hear Kade's feeling better, poor little guy! If I'm thinking of the same game, what you called Red Light Green Light, we called Go Go Stop. We also played T.V Tag, Freeze Tag and a game called Freeze Frame. Lots of games where you freeze!
As children we made up our own games. Some were unique, and some were based on other games...with our own rules. It's possible that during his last life, Kade and his siblings did the same thing. Perhaps Moon Tag was their own invention.
Ailish
Glad to hear Kade's feeling better, poor little guy! If I'm thinking of the same game, what you called Red Light Green Light, we called Go Go Stop. We also played T.V Tag, Freeze Tag and a game called Freeze Frame. Lots of games where you freeze!
As children we made up our own games. Some were unique, and some were based on other games...with our own rules. It's possible that during his last life, Kade and his siblings did the same thing. Perhaps Moon Tag was their own invention.
Ailish
Kitn
Senior Registered
That could be right. I was thinking about all the school yard games we used to play as a child. Most of our playing was done outside after school and on the weekends. My generation was a very physically active generation. I see now so many chubby children here. Our recesses were always led by an adult and if we did not play on the climbing bars or swings we played team games, hopscotch and such. When my youngest was in school, school yard activities were not directed play. After school many children prefer to sit in front of the television, computer or game boxes. We also have so many junk foods. I am glad Kade is a veggie boy. But he too like to play those video games. I don't know why I am writing this, lol. I guess his bringing up tag made me wonder what ever happened to all those fun, wonderful games children used to play.
MoonDansyr
Senior Registered
It is sad that kids don't run and play like they did when I was a kid. One neighborhood I lived in was full of kids and we were always on our bikes or playing four-square or tag or any number of things. I feel sad that my kids don't have that, but I'm too fearful of predators or just plain stupid idiots in cars not paying attention. Maybe if we lived in a different neighborhood, I'd be more relaxed. I dunno.
Back to the Moon Tag. When I was a kid and visiting some extended family, we once played tag at night with flashlights - - but I could see how maybe during a full-moon, it might be fun to play tag at night.
I can't help but wonder if Kade's previous dad and Todd were two different individuals? Or maybe if Todd was his dad, it is possible that he was a wonderful person sober, but maybe turned volatile when drinking. He may not have been a 24/7 drunk - - it may have been only at night or only *some* nights or only on weekends. It could have been that he had been in a war *or* experienced something horrible as a youth/young adult and suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome and drank to "soothe" the emotional pain and the two things combined - - well, he may have seen the family as "the enemy" rather than "my wife and kids" - - you just never know. *shrugs*
Also, my gut really urges me to think that Kade lived during the depression somewhere in North America. I know he said they used candles - - have you found any oil lamps and showed him pictures to see if they look familiar to him?
Back to the Moon Tag. When I was a kid and visiting some extended family, we once played tag at night with flashlights - - but I could see how maybe during a full-moon, it might be fun to play tag at night.
I can't help but wonder if Kade's previous dad and Todd were two different individuals? Or maybe if Todd was his dad, it is possible that he was a wonderful person sober, but maybe turned volatile when drinking. He may not have been a 24/7 drunk - - it may have been only at night or only *some* nights or only on weekends. It could have been that he had been in a war *or* experienced something horrible as a youth/young adult and suffered post-traumatic stress syndrome and drank to "soothe" the emotional pain and the two things combined - - well, he may have seen the family as "the enemy" rather than "my wife and kids" - - you just never know. *shrugs*
Also, my gut really urges me to think that Kade lived during the depression somewhere in North America. I know he said they used candles - - have you found any oil lamps and showed him pictures to see if they look familiar to him?
Chelle
Probationary
Just in case you hadn't thought of it or no one had mentioned it, I thought I'd mention that in rural areas, especially a generation or two ago, it would have been very rare to see a new vehicle. Since Kade remembers seeing an old style car, it's likely he lived sometime after that car was invented, but if he lived in a rural area that car may have seemed new to them when it was actually 5 or 10 years old, maybe older depending on the location.
Have you asked him how people got around? Did they walk, or use horses? Did he live where houses were close together or far apart? If he is in the mood and bringing it up, maybe you could ask him to draw a picture or build a model with blocks and toys.
Have you asked him how people got around? Did they walk, or use horses? Did he live where houses were close together or far apart? If he is in the mood and bringing it up, maybe you could ask him to draw a picture or build a model with blocks and toys.
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