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When In Rome... (I)

SavingSocrates

Alurayne
Hello. I'm Alurayne, and, as I'm sure you all can tell, I am new to this forum.

First of all, I am only 18, but I hope none of you shall discredit what I am to say, or pass my elaborate speech off as some form of grandstanding--if anything, it is just as much an anomaly to me as it may be to you.

I know that many stories of Past-Live experiences end in therapy, or some form of healing, but I want it to be known that my experiences did not drive me here for aid, just a haven where my story could be told, and hopefully, understood. It will ease a great burden from my shoulders just to tell it, even if none listen. I warn you, since this story wasn't caught in my early years, it does run on a while, and I advise you to make sure you have time to finish it all, once you have begun.

It begins when I was in 3rd or 4th grade--it seems like such a time ago. While the other children spent their time outdoors, on the playground, I spent mine in our school library: I had an insatiable hunger to read. It came as a shock to my teachers that, when tested, I was comparable to a College-or-Higher reading level, while barely having reached the age that I was. I did not attempt to skip any grades, nor was I offered--I simply progressed through my years, doing the sometimes-too-easy work, all the while feeding my need for higher learning. It was not simply the level itself that began to amaze me, but the content. I searched for pieces by Victor Hugo, Alexander Dumas, and other such classic authors, while my peers read more comical and lighthearted works, meant for children.

I was drawn to informational books on inventions and architecture. I remember sitting in our comfy chairs, tracing the sketch of the Coliseum with my fingertip, pondering over the idea of the first Lever, the fulcrum, axis, and other such minor concepts that made the world around me run. I repeatedly checked out a book on Chemistry, because I was fascinated with the look of powdered sulfur, of crushed alum, and other such minerals and elements. What seemed to hit me the hardest was the way that I viewed these things as monumental, although I had been born into a world that was fast approaching the year 2000. Things such as the basic elements, electrical conduits, and televisions, was nothing too new, but I treated them like a man looking upon the first lightbulb--as if I had never seen them before.

Soon enough, I picked up my first copy of Plato's Dialogues from my public library. Too this day, I do not know why I wandered into the dusty back-section of the library, the sections reserved for the official-looking adults. I do not know why I moved down to the very bottom shelf, one sagging under the weight of the old-looking, oddly bound books there. I picked up the Dialogues, and that day, I read the Apology for the first time. I still remember that I cried as I read it, and I did not know why. Oddly enough, I understood the concepts covered within: The idea of the lack of wise men, the misunderstood concept of death, and how it should not be feared. I felt a connection to the idea of the wise man admitting he knows nothing, the ideas of morality, and the evils of ego. I understood the wickedness of Socrates being put to death, merely for living as he dreamed to live. I understood philosophy. And it only went on from there. I found Aristotle, Cicero, Marcus Aurelius, Plutarch, Plato, Virgil and Ovid, Lucretius. Later, I even searched for modern philosophers', such as Camus, Rand, Descartes. I had found an uncanny ally in philosophy, something that my era--certainly my age group--had all but abandoned. I felt like a philosopher.
 
When In Rome...(II)


As I aged, I put all I found to usefulness. By age ten, I was writing poetry, and learning from the best, like Poe, Wordsworth, Emerson, and Milton. I began writing essays based around Roman and Greek life, religion, and philosophy, finally having one published recently. Whatever I did, though, it seemed to slowly wind back to two places--Rome and Greece. I delved into original Latin texts, dreamed of visiting Italy, studied the ancient styles of swordsmanship--completely shunning the use of modern day firearms--took to searching for journals hand-crafted near Rome itself, and furthered my search of Philosophy. This was all only inflamed by the dreams that began to flood in. I would dream vivid landscapes of what I only imagined was Rome in its youth--full of armor-clad Centurions, classic marble pillars, altars seeping heavenly aromas, and the constant clamor of a life that was still in development. I could hear the hammering of forges, the cries of roadside lectures, smell the steam of public baths, and hear nearby prayers to gods' I had only recently become familiar with. My household--one typically catering to Catholicism--had never condoned the ideas of Polytheism, and would have lectured me on the heretical idea of "more than one God". That is not to say that they stifled my creativity--they just saw it more as fancy. I even tried telling that to myself, but the dreams were too vivid, and when they began to happen in my waking periods, as I listened to my wide collection of classical music and Latin hymns, it was a hard path to believe.


After I had found it was difficult to view modern architecture, because it was displeasing to my eye, and difficult to hear modern english, because it sounded so unfamiliar--when all the modern practices of the modern world began to seem the foreign things--I allowed myself to start believing that, just maybe, there was something to the idea of "past lives". Being such a difficult concept to breach, however, I have mostly kept my ideas to myself, sharing with only a very, very select few.


I still find myself living what I believe would have been the life of some bygone philosopher, dabbling in the study of Alchemy and its beautiful ideas, practicing wise Socrates' introspection, and Cicero's and Aristotle's view of Politics. It has put me into a sense of intellectual isolation--many children my age are frightened by what many of my teacher's say is a "startling maturity, that I can even see in your eyes." They call me an "old soul", and say I understand concepts that are hardly even taught in any part of the country. I still feel as if, given a chance to be in Italy, I would break down crying, again feeling that unexplained connection to what could possibly be my homeland. It goes back farther than just a few decades, to a recent war, or a life that is relatively modern. I feel an abysmal gap between that life that may have existed, and the world I live in now, so negligent of the ethics and beliefs of so long ago. As some say, though, it may just be my budding sense of creativity. Make of it what you will, if you will. I know I breathe just a bit easier having shared it, with someone, if anyone.


Thank you for listening.
 
You're welcome. Thank you for sharing. Are you familiar with Roger Woolgers books? You might enjoy them.
 
Savingsocrates, your experience is wonderfully described. Please let us know, if you so choose, what else you have found and what you propose to do with your gifts. As you must know, there is a purpose for your seeing and feeling these things, and your description of the street scene and blacksmith brought me a vision of my own. For that I thank you.
 
Hi Savingsocrates, and welcome to the Forum. I recognize your path as a very lonely one, and I further acknowledge your coming here as a fortunate opportunity to meet people of like minds. As you probably realize, Reincarnation was of particular interest to the ancient Greeks until much of their philosophy was relentlessly purged from the Christian church during the first millenium. Your instinctive desire to rediscover those ancient truths gives hope that it is not entirely lost through attrition.
 
Welcome SavingSocrates.


Thank you for sharing your story. I hope you will feel at home here with like minded souls. When, in your journey, did reincarnation define itself to you? I'm curious what you have studied on the subject.


Awakening to the idea of past lives is so incredible... so sacred. It sounds as if your path has been unraveling for sometime. We share the common trait of belonging to a place and time that seems to pull us back.


I hope you will share more.


Tinkerman
 
As far as other things I have found, I have been researching into different schools of Philosophy, such as the Stoics, or Neoplatonits, with a special interest into Camus and his Existentialism; his tendency to refer to the same time periods I do manages to deeply touch me, such as his short essay on Prometheus. And as for what I am to do? It may sound like visions of grandeur, but I want to revive Philosophy. I know it is unlikely it will ever flourish again as it once did, but I want to show the world that it is not as uncared for as it seems, and there are still a select few who will pursue it, even if it takes being ridiculed as I seek a Degree at my local university in it.
 
I suppose it became a prevalent idea in my mind around the time I began taking Psychology classes at my school. Shamefully, I fell to believe that my dreams, both sleeping and waking, were the result of some form of Schizophrenia, which I, delusional--no pun intended--believed I had. Once I was convinced it was neither this, or Schizotypal-Disorder--you have to understand, believing my experiences were something other than mental were difficult, for, having issues with the God-Concept, I wanted to be rational--I was left to believe it must be -something- else. I have only very recently begun looking into cases of people with similar cases, because, I admit, I am frightened of what I will fine. But, now that I have begun, and after reading all of your wonderful comments, I truly feel at ease--for this, I thank you.
 
Nightrain said:
Hi Savingsocrates, and welcome to the Forum. I recognize your path as a very lonely one, and I further acknowledge your coming here as a fortunate opportunity to meet people of like minds. As you probably realize, Reincarnation was of particular interest to the ancient Greeks until much of their philosophy was relentlessly purged from the Christian church during the first millenium. Your instinctive desire to rediscover those ancient truths gives hope that it is not entirely lost through attrition.
I thank you for your words. For the longest time, I have feared that my story would be misunderstood, to a point where I did not even wish to believe in it any longer. The whole concept of Their belief in Incarnation is part of the things that drive me on to pursue it in my own time. Oddly enough, I have always felt an inherent malice towards the Church--maybe your statement, which has crossed my mind as well, is a part of that. Again, I thank you.
 
...believe that my dreams, both sleeping and waking, were the result of some form of Schizophrenia, which I, delusional--no pun intended--believed I had. Once I was convinced it was neither this, or Schizotypal-Disorder--you have to understand, believing my experiences were something other than mental were difficult, for, having issues with the God-Concept, I wanted to be rational--I was left to believe it must be -something- else. I have only very recently begun looking into cases of people with similar cases, because, I admit, I am frightened of what I will fine. But, now that I have begun, and after reading all of your wonderful comments, I truly feel at ease--for....
SavSoc... this was my experience also, as written in my first post here many years ago. The vivid memories and real emotions made me think I was crazy. Until reincarnation presented itself. I too was nervous at what was unraveling in front of me, but as the years have come and gone I've come to accept the vast infinite truth of life and above all the sacredness of each soul's journey through it. And, I seem to trust this direction... it has answered many questions about life, my personality and my life's quest. I think you too will find this to be true.


Thank you again for coming forward... I think we all will benefit from your story.


Tinkerman
 
Thank you times over. Your words give me a sense of security in my decision that I have been unable to find myself. It means much to me to hear it. Thank you.
 
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