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Time spans between -- life time to life time

Time spans between -- life time to life time

  • 0 - 5 years

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  • 5-25 years

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  • 50-100 years

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  • 100-200 years

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  • more than 250 years

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A most interesting thread. My understanding is we incarnate on the average of 150-300 "Earth years". I make that qualification because what time is to us isn't necessarily what it is on the other side.


That time period between incarnations depends upon what goal we are setting to work out in the next life, and often times waiting for the right circumstance to come back. I've learned of lifes in the period of Atlantis, during the building of the pyramids, as a 16th century priest, as a bank robber in the 1800s, and this lifetime. There are others I won't delve into now. Also, a possible lifetime between the period 1920 and the start of WW2, but that one is yet far from being confirmed.


Also to understand is WHY we come back? Is it to learn, or is it to repay Karmic debt? In another thread I told of my wife in a previous life who I encountered in this one. In my life as a priest in the 1600's, a Nun who was my assistant and confidant (we were both psychic but she never told anybody except me about this talent) protected me until near the end when the church finally caught me. (I was burned at the stake in that lifetime).


In this life I had that Karmic debt to repay. She came into my life and we were very close. I helped her to achieve specific career goals then we separated and have not seen one another in almost 30 years now.


You may have some specific goal to achieve and it may take a long time for the right circumstances to appear. On the other hand, circumstances may be such that a "quick turnaround" may be in order.


A psychic told me long ago that I'm an "old soul", that I've incarnated 93 times, and I'm near the point where I won't have to come back. THAT, unfortunately left as many questions as the reading gave answers.


I also feel the rate we return at can be influenced by the debt we've incurred in past lives. If we've been responsible for a lot of pain and suffering for others, its going to take time (lifetimes) to repay that.


Lastly, though according to the rules we aren't supposed to discuss it, this isn't the only place we can come. I've regressed to lifetimes I cannot begin to understand. It would be akin to taking a person from the 16th century and beaming them aboard the starship Enterprize. They would be completely devoid of being able to understand and conceive of where they are and what they saw around them. I will only say that I saw things I couldn't begin to conceive or comprehend.


Sorry, I don't think there is a 'canned answer' to this question.
 
wow, and here I thought people would come down on me and say that 0-5 is impossible, it's too soon. So good to be in the company of others.


I put 0-5 since that seems to be the going rate in mine. It's almost as though I'm miffed at letting go or being torn away from it all and I have to see the people I left behind again.
 
I did have fast returns for the last 100 years at least.. I have found in my regressions I will say I am born at a certain time when I later figured out that that was the time I came into the womb.. I had several returns after death within the same year


Have you found any of those people this life Sunset or had other memories of them ?? And maybe a reason for those longings-- I ask because I too felt a deep longing for someone and it turned out that by remembering who they were from long ago it helped me to work out alot of my spiritual needs.
 
Soul, yeah, people from those past lives keep popping up everywhere. And they always turn out to be connected. I'll meet someone, or even see their friend, feel this immense longing or sadness to meet them and then it turns out that we lived together. Was that that same for you?


Interestingly, this seems to happen around music and is always connected to restaurants, and the people are either regulars there or physically running those places. I know that when I lived in the 20s, we hung out in cafés and restaurants a lot and it might have been the same in the 60s.


I think those longings would help me work out my spiritual needs if I managed to look past the emotions. The problem is, I regress emotionally, I mean, I don't so much remember places but I'll meet with someone, *know* that they're from my past life, and they will release emotions.


I'm right in the middle of this now where someone managed to release emotions and memories of the life I had right before this one. And a lot of the people I meet are connected to those. It's incredibly interesting though scary because the memories are bad.


If it's not too personal, that person who helped you remember your past, do they believe in reincarnation and did you talk to them about it? I'm also asking because two people seem to trigger past life recall and I never spoke to either one of them. In fact, the recall was long they even knew I existed.
 
Sunsetswhi


When I first started doing healing with regression work most of the people I was attracted had been in my past. Some of them I got to know, others I only saw professionally or from a distance. I never did talk to most of the people about my beliefs . The people I have told have shown no interest. So I have no one who I feel I can share this with...ie it does not seem to be an important thing for them as it is for me to explore.


I can see now that that was for the best as it made it so that my energy could be more focused on healing.. THe more I am alone the easier it is to get in touch with my feelings. I can sense that the work I am doing now is leading to a future change so that maybe I will find someone to share my beliefs with??


I would spend alot of time meditating, as I was bedridden for most of the day for the past 33 years and was kind of forced to be alone. I did find support in my self regressions and by sharing on public forums like this one. I can see now that I do not need to have these people who I have known from before to be necessarily in my life--ie I feel safe with having my beliefs and can trust that.


Do you feel that you would like those you know to also be aware of those past lives??


I found I needed to remember alot before I could work out the kinks of my spiritual problems. I see you believe to have a life in the holocaust.. as I have . I remember four lives.. killed by the Nazis . three of which I died in a concentration camp. From what I have read alot of people are returning with awareness of their time there. A good book if you dont have it is Beyond the Ashes by Rabbi Gershom. There is a yahoo support group I used to belong to called unlockingthedoor.. I think it can help to share with people who have had similar experiences.
 
I really think it varies from person to person. I know many people who believe they are reincarnated every 0-5 years, and a lot of them are frustrated that they hadn't had more time in between lives.


For me, I only have solid memories of one life in the middle ages, and one life from 1910 to 1950 or so. Then this life, which started in 1989. I do get the sense that I was in the Civil War, but that's something I've never regressed to. So for me, there is a lot of space between lives, although it looks as though the time is decreasing as I have more and more lives. Perhaps next time I'll reincarnate within 20 years instead of 40, and so on.
 
Soul, do you remember specific details? And, if it's not too personal, do you also feel a raging hatred towards Germans, the way I do? I even lived there off and on and even today when I'm not living there, I find it hard to be friends with Germans in general, though two close friends are in fact Germans who have lived their entire lives in Germany.


Sarque, I agree, it varies from person to person. You mentioned the Civil War, is that something you would want to regress to or is it more a case of knowing that you might have lived then and that's enough information (for the time being)?
 
I have remembered quite of bit of the worst from those lives in the camps. I have written about it here


I needed to dredge up the details in order to get over the past traumatic stress I was suffering from.It was pretty unbelievable and I was questioning the depth of the pain too much.


Forgiveness.. I wondered if I would ever get over the anger.. but it is getting better. I had to learn to say to myself " The concept of needing to forgive is from the minds of man and not God." And God has been here for me { sigh} :)
 
For now it's enough to have the sense that I was there. I'm trying to deal with some trauma from WWII first and I know that the Civil War was also a very traumatic time for many people. I feel that I've been in the military in most of my lives and right now, the WWII memories are the ones I have to come to terms with. Perhaps once that is healed I will be more willing to regress to the Civil War.


I wonder why some people come back faster and some come back slower? Is it due to something about them or is it entirely random?
 
It seems like it would be a random time -ie not always the same but based on a plan>?? If souls are coming back to a life to meet again there has to be some major adjustments in the schedualing timetable.


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I only know of in-between times in the 20th century. Before that I have an idea what century it is but not a specific year. I was a German during WWII. I've kind of avoided learning about this life because I'm afraid of what I might find out. I do know that I wasn't one of the good guys. I died late in the war. I did regress to a scene of a bombed-out German town. The Allies were moving in. I had a sniper riffle and was picking off allied soldiers in the distance. I was afraid my family would be captured or killed. That night I was shot in the chest. It was dark so I never saw where the shot came from.


I figured 11 years between that life and my next. Between this life and my most recent was a very quick turn around, less than a year. I think since that life was cut so short maybe I was anxious to get back in the game and pick up where I left off. Maybe the early end to my last life was a karmic consiquence to my WWII life.
 
Was I eager? I was brought back to this life in just over 2 months after expiring in a traumatic circumstance. Skin blemish is visible where the area of fatal injury. Born on the same birthday as previous incarnation.
 
Hi onemoretime,


I also reincarnated very quickly when I died in my previous life, although it was probably more than two months (though less than a year :) depending on when you believe the soul enters the body of the fetus).
 
Even though I was FINALLY born in 1953, my Mother had several miscarriages between '47 and '53, so I will use 1947 as the FIRST opportunity (to be born) year.


So if I'm to believe my Past Life (PL) memories, I probably died around '39-40 (educated guess) then it could of been possibly 8 or so years (using 1947 as a possible birth year).


In actuality it was more like 14 or so years (possibly died around 1939, definitely born in 1953).


What made me choose this particular body, I don't know, perhaps it was a set of circumstances in this life, perhaps I wanted to live with someone, I really don't know at this point, but some day, I will know (and a whole lot more)! ;)
 
Hi


Well, this is an interesting thread, and although I would like to say I also believe in there being a short time span between lives, I do not feel placed to give an answer. It is for the same reason that I cannot quite accept the notion of having past lives, or rather, of my dreams being my past lives.


Between now and 1864, I have had dreams and flashes of at least 5-6 lives, and of these, at least 3 are overlapping, and at least two, if not overlapping, at least incredibly close together.


So, I don't understand - and I have reseached and confirmed a couple of these dreams now - supposing these dreams and visions WERE glimpses of my own past... why are they overlapping? Theoretically, that shouldn't be possible, unless there is something in the notion of multiple layers of time, each moving like onion skins over each other??
 
I was born in my current life in 1981 and died in my previous life in 1944 so that was a span of 37 years. From the early 1700s to present, it seems there were relatively short spans between my lifetimes of lengths varying from a year or two up the 37 years between this life and my last. From the early 1700s to now I can recall at least 7 or 8 lives, possibly more.


Looking farther back in time it seems that I had longer stretches between lives. I don't have an answer for why this is. Maybe I just don't yet know of lives that filled the gaps. Maybe what I think are memories from 1 life are actually from 2 or 3 but since its so far back in time, they get all muddled up. Who knows?


Interesting stuff. :thumbsup:
 
I am contributing this missive after the poll was closed, but I am a more frequent reincarnator than not.


For purposes of this analysis, I was born in 1888, then died in a car crash at the age of 17 in 1905.


I was then born again in 1909, four and a half years later, as the son of my sister from that just previous life...who in this lifetime was a former fiance. As her son, I was again killed in an automobile accident in 1919. (Thank you firebird)


Two years later, my next lifetime began in 1921 and ended early as a 22 year old. I was an allied soldier killed in combat during the invasion of Italy. Several friends in my current life were killed with me then...I had lunch with one today.


The longest stretch recently between lives was from 1943 to 1960. At least four soulmates with whom I died in Italy, were all born between 1959 and 1961, are strong friends to me now. They do not know each other but I have seen them together in lucid dreams of times past and we were sort of a band of brothers then and it feels that way between me and each of them now...I have a strong feeling they'd each feel the same way about each other also, although they have yet to meet.


As was mentioned earlier, the length of time since the WWII death and 1960 may have been to get everybody here together at the same time...that resonates very powerfully with me. And besides the war comrades, I have an extremely strong connection to my sister, mother and father, my mother's sister and my maternal grandmother and wife (who was also the mother of the boy killed in 1905...we were married in this lifetime on the anniversary of that earlier boy's death) which connection also includes the children I now have...all of whom are soul mates. The purpose of our all being here at this time is as yet undiscovered but I am certain I will figure it out sooner or later. As of now it is wonderfully comforting to know the connections are there and that we planned it all.
 
I forgot to mention that dating back before 1888 there are seldom great terms of years between the other lives I have noted. I am aware of several that overlap and have been told that there were two incarnate lives of my soul at those times. I don't know much about this situation but if anyone does I'd really like to hear about it.
 
Hello usetawuz,


If you are talking about living two different lives at the same time, Michael Newton mentions one client of his in his book 'Journey Of Souls', on page 150. His client gave details of living in Canada as well as being present in Newton's office in America.


Many years ago I read an account of Francis of Assisi. Apparently he was in the habit of stopping half way through a sermon, pull his hood over his head and appear to be praying silently for a while. Witnesses in a different location attested to the fact that he had been in their town at the same time, giving them a sermon also. Whether this was a double entity or simply bilocation I don't know, but interesting nonetheless.


regards


Merlin
 
Thank you Merlin. I will review Newton's example. And yes, Francis of Assisi's situation is certainly interesting.
 
"I am aware of several that overlap and have been told that there were two incarnate lives of my soul at those times. I don't know much about this situation but if anyone does I'd really like to hear about it."


What an interesting forum and thread. Usetawuz, Deborah, and others who have written on this, thanks for your comments. Usetawuz, I don't have answers about simultaneous multiple incarnations of a soul. However, I seem to be able to "identify" the soul inside a person by it's "frequency." But I think it's a little unusual that I "get" the same approximately 7 (give or take 2 or so, I'm not sure) souls, across humankind. I don't want to know, probably, it just arrives intuitively. I started making lists, eventually, and I only put the "good ones" down. Every alleged "essence/soul" has incarnated as saints and evil people. As I am "sent," this occurs presently, too, even for the "highest level soul's" incarnations. None of this is a rule, or known by me to be true in any way. What it suggests to me, personally, is we are working on whatever issues our soul on the other side and God wants us to work on on Earth (all being God), and also that may be why so many people have the same past lives. I find it humbling that those I "see" to be incarnations of "the highest soul," the one that expresses God through "mastery," that is how the expression is described by my intuition, and whose soul is, I believe, Father God himself, are the only "soul incarnations" who cannot, or nearly cannot, conceive of this theory, if the subject of reincarnation comes up and it's appropriate conversationally. But, I cancel out thoughts like that almost every week with new observations, too. Thanks to everyone for their thoughtful and wonderful postings.
 
Wow Freedom, what you describe sounds amazing! If I understand you, you sense between 5 and 7 different soul fequencies. Are you saying you have found only 5 to 7 different souls (oversouls) with identifiable frequencies, or is it that everyone incarnate has a frequency that functions at one of those levels?


I have read a theory stating an oversoul has 12 subsouls, each subsoul made up of 12 supersubsouls, for a total of 144 different incarnate individuals on earth, technically housing the same identifying frequency...I guess that each oversoul would determine the frequency...maybe.


I greatly appreciate your sharing this information and the impressions you've received, and would love to hear more of what you have found.
 
Hi Freedom, and welcome to the Forum!


You appear to have some background in this realm, and we'll be very interested to hear more. Please feel free to introduce yourself in a new thread of the Community Reflections Section.
 
Considering the work done by noted researchers, and the collective opinion of many persons on this board from their own personal experiences, it becomes fairly apparant that the timespan between lifetimes can be anything from instantaneous to thousands of years.


The 'average' between 0 and 1000 years is 500 years, but that is obviously a misinterpretation of the statistics.


Some 'famous psychics' notwithstanding.


Merlin
 
I've always wondered, given the difference in time between the Physical and Spiritual world, if we could even accurately gauge the time between lives per se.


I'm sure there are higher laws at work here, other than "perception", which alter our views on time as we know it.


For instance, as a child, I was convinced that time was different, say approaching Christmas, or the time leading up to summer vacation, as opposed to the rapidly receding time of summer vacation before school started in the fall. :)


Based on the commonly thought research on the subject, I tend to agree with "Merlin" and I also believe, that if a lifetime is cut short (say by disease or war) then the return to a body could be much sooner.


However, if one has lead a long and contented life, and has learned many lessons on this side, then it's possible that it might not be so necessary to return any time soon.


For those so desperate to return to the Physical world, that they take the first available body, might give rise to "mis-matches" of a sexual nature, one of which could be a feeling of, say, being a woman in a man's body or vice-versa.


Again, as always, this is just my opinion on the subject.
 
What an amazing forum. I learn so much from you all. I can say, Nightrain1, I am a raw observer, no more. You can tell you like a lot of knowledge to filter through your mind as well. It is important for me to understand others, and I hope to find more understanding in this thread. Usetawuz, thanks for the question. I would say the first, that I've noticed apparently, of course, as in not provably, that each "soul or essence" I notice has one of maybe a few to several different "notes of accordance" with a frequency vibration so to say. I would agree with Merlin that work by serious scientific study personnel and personal experiences of non-researchers does not jibe at all to my "understanding" shall I call it for now. Merlin's reply to the forum on the original thread posting is what I mean. And in any case, who knows? I think what I experience, new wording as I experience new "insights personally" every week or so, what it means I don't contract to, is I think a person in each group of humans in a "level" has conscious memories of perhaps one or a few past lives, but that consciousness is the same for all of that group, all expanding on the level they are at by experiencing their lives, all the group's lives, at a sub-conscious level of their mind. So all, in some way, are a being with many incarnations with same subconscious memories and past lives. Experience, lifetime, fame, fortune, lessons, education, all there in their "essence," for their group's experiences. I think, I'll say five, maybe, levels in consciousness is what I "rawly" observe. If there was a creation it seems they resonate to five purposes in vibration. The lowest being seemingly more easily confused by expansion, but surely capable. The final level, up at the continuum capital, is the level at a vibratory locator I don't understand, it's way above me. I can see its group members have understanding and tolerance often expressing through learning and teaching, mastering profundities while lower level group persons reach for a lot of non-practicality themes in life.
 
I didn't vote because my option wasn't there: "It depends..."


On what? On what you find. I don't believe that any sort of "rules" are placed on the soul, not even ones banning suicide (although I still think it's a bad idea).
 
I voted 5-25 years, but my answer, like Shiftkitty's, should really have been "it depends." In the last life that I can remember (when I was Mary Carter), I died in 1829. I was born into this life in 1966. So that's a difference of 137 years. However, I have a sneaking suspicion that there is a WWII soldier life in between, which I have not pursued trying to remember, probably because I subconsciously know it's too painful to recall.


This is off-topic, but I'll include it anyway because I believe it's relevant: Two years ago, I spent a lot of time experimenting with something called a ghost box, which is a way to supposedly communicate with those on the other side. My brother had just died a few months before, so I was trying to reach him. I ended up contacting instead several other of my dead relations, and I was told repeatedly, when I asked to speak to my brother, that he was "sleeping." Since my brother died very suddenly in his sleep of a brain aneurysm, I now believe that he had some sort of a resting phase after his death, and who knows how long that would last?


I also recall reading in "Soul Survivor" how James Leininger was present at his parents' honeymoon (as a spirit), and how he chose his parents. So I think choice does play a huge part in when one is born. I also think that family plays a big part, too, since I believe that people reincarnate in groups, and your ancestors, even if you have never met them, watch over you and connect with you on some level during your life. So, for instance, my grandmother (whom I've spoken to over the ghost box) can't or won't reincarnate again until I die and she's met me on the other side.


Sorry to mix up all these other paranormal subjects with reincarnation, but in my mind, they are all part of one big picture.
 
Hi Jay!


I think that most paranormal subjects lend themselves in one way or another to the understanding of reincarnation. Even History, Philosophy, Religion and Science (quantum theory) enter into discussion quite often. The use of the new ghost box technology seems to be very interesting. Very sorry to hear about your brother.


By the way, welcome to the Forum!
 
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Hi Deborah. I dont actually think there is rules on when we can and cannot incarnate. What ever plans we have with our guide would probably result in when we incarnate. I have not had past life regression myself :( but from Michael Newtons subjects they say that time does not exist in the spirit world as is does on earth. If we have to prepare for our next life, be it in the next 100 earth years, or 2 earth hours, we would probably still spend the same amount of time 'studying' as we would inbetween all our incarnations. I maybe didnt explain this right but i hope you know what I mean:).


So, yeah, I think, according to Newtons work, that we can incarnate anytime after death we want to without being in a rush. Maybe if we want to incarnate right away after one life, we prepare for the two of them at the same time so when we die in the first one, we know what is expected of the next right away:)


I have put 0-5 on the poll because I think that would be the average time on earth years we would reincarnate.
 
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