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The Third Jesus - Deepak Chopra

Ailish

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I was just looking online and noticed that Deepak Chopra had a new book out titled “The Third Jesus: The Christ We Cannot Ignore” and naturally I was curious if anyone had read it yet – and what they thought.

Amazon says the following about the book:

There is not one Jesus, Chopra writes, but three.

First, there is the historical Jesus, the man who lived more than two thousand years ago and whose teachings are the foundation of Christian theology and thought. Next there is Jesus the Son of God, who has come to embody an institutional religion with specific dogma, a priesthood, and devout believers. And finally, there is the third Jesus, the cosmic Christ, the spiritual guide whose teaching embraces all humanity, not just the church built in his name. He speaks to the individual who wants to find God as a personal experience, to attain what some might call grace, or God-consciousness, or enlightenment.

When we take Jesus literally, we are faced with the impossible. How can we truly “love thy neighbor as thyself”? But when we see the exhortations of Jesus as invitations to join him on a higher spiritual plane, his words suddenly make sense.

Ultimately, Chopra argues, Christianity needs to overcome its tendency to be exclusionary and refocus on being a religion of personal insight and spiritual growth. In this way Jesus can be seen for the universal teacher he truly is–someone whose teachings of compassion, tolerance, and understanding can embrace and be embraced by all of us.

I came across an excerpt from the book on his website and one of the stories caught my attention, so I thought I would share it here:

Time hasn't altered this mixture of hope and puzzlement. I had an experience that centers around one of Jesus's most baffling teachings: "Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also." (Luke 6:29) These are words that our Jewish laborer could have heard that day on the hilltop, but time hasn't altered human nature enough to make this teaching any easier. If I let a bully hit me on one cheek only to turn the other, won't he beat the stuffing out of me? The same holds good, on a larger scale, for a threat like terrorism: If we allow evildoers to strike us without reprisal, won't they continue to do so, over and over?

On the surface my experience only vaguely fits this dilemma. Yet it leads to the heart of Christ's mission. I was in a crowded bookstore promoting a new book when a woman came up to me, saying, "Can I talk to you? I need three hours." She was a compact, forceful person (less politely, a pit bull), but as gently as I could I told her, pointing to the other people crowded around the table, that I didn't have three hours to spare.

A cloud passed over her face. "You have to. I came all the way from Mexico City," she said, insisting that she must have three hours alone with me. I asked if she had called my office in advance, and she had. What did they tell her? That I would be busy all day.

"But I came on my own anyway, because I've heard you say that anything is possible," she said. "If that's true, you should be able to see me."

The PR person in charge of the event was pulling at my elbow, so I told the woman that if she came back later, I might find a few minutes of personal time for her. She became enraged in front of everyone. She released a stream of invective, sparing no four-letter words, and stalked away, muttering darkly that I was a fraud. Later that night the incident wouldn't leave me in peace, so I considered an essential spiritual truth: People mirror back to us the reality of who we are. I sat down and wrote out a list of things I'd noticed about this woman. What had I disliked about her? She was angry, demanding, confrontational, and selfish. Then I called my wife and asked her if I was like that. There was a long silence at the other end of the phone. I was more than a little shaken.

I sat down to face what reality was asking me to face. I found a veneer of annoyance and irritation (after all, wasn't I the innocent victim? hadn't she embarrassed me in front of dozens of people?). Then I called a truce with the negative energies she had stirred up. Vague images of past injuries came to mind, which put me on the right trail. I moved as much of the stagnant energies of hurt as I could.

To put it bluntly, this was a Jesus moment. When he preached, "If anyone strikes you on the cheek, offer him the other also" (Luke 6:29), Jesus wasn't preaching masochism or martyrdom. He was speaking of a quality of consciousness that is known in Sanskrit as Ahimsa. The word is usually translated as "harmlessness" or "nonviolence," and in modern times it became the watchword of Gandhi's movement of peaceful resistance. Gandhi himself was often seen as Christlike, but Ahimsa has roots in India going back thousands of years.

In the Indian tradition several things are understood about nonviolence, and all of them apply to Jesus's version of turning the other cheek. First, the aim of nonviolence is ultimately to bring peace to yourself, to quell your own violence; the enemy outside serves only to mirror the enemy within. Second, your ability to be nonviolent depends on a shift in consciousness. Last, if you are successful in changing yourself, reality will mirror the change back to you.

Without these conditions, Ahimsa isn't spiritual or even effective. If someone full of desire for retaliation turns the other cheek to someone equally enraged, the only thing that will occur is more violence. Playing the part of a saint won't make a difference. But if a person in God-consciousness turns the other cheek, his enemy will be disarmed.

Copyright © 2008 by Deepak Chopra

Ailish ;)
 
Wow Aili thanks for posting. Great food for thought! And another book on my list (I'm like Deb, it's growing!) I particularly relate to and agree with the quote:

Christianity needs to overcome its tendency to be exclusionary, and refocus on being a religion of personal insight and spiritual growth. In this way Jesus can be seen for the universal teacher he truly is–someone whose teachings of compassion, tolerance, and understanding can embrace and be embraced by all of us.
This, to me, is a profound truth.


I love the principle of "mirroring" and have studied it alittle. It is amazing and insightful. It is sometimes entertaining to observe it played out in those around me. Often the truths, like Chopra said, are tough to handle, but so perfect in their lesson.


Have a lovely day... :)


Tinkerman
 
Hi Ailish,


Regarding "loving thy neighbor as thyself", I think Jesus was talking about compassion. Of course it is almost impossible to love an enemy or someone who has done you harm, but the knowledge that we are ALL interconnected, that we are all ONE, brings with it the understanding that what we do upon another directly influences the WHOLE... ;)
 
Without these conditions, Ahimsa isn't spiritual or even effective. If someone full of desire for retaliation turns the other cheek to someone equally enraged, the only thing that will occur is more violence. Playing the part of a saint won't make a difference. But if a person in God-consciousness turns the other cheek, his enemy will be disarmed.


I don't really get this - surely if you're angry with someone who is just as angry with you and you choose to turn the other cheek, this is good, and not 'playing the part of a saint', how will more violence occur if you choose not to participate?


Anna
 
Hi Anna,

…surely if you're angry with someone who is just as angry with you and you choose to turn the other cheek, this is good…
I think it’s definitely a good start – but I believe that what Chopra is getting at is that when you are *angry* you are experiencing a negative emotion and therefore not operating on the same level of consciousness - and consequently not attaining Ahimsa. Negativity lowers personal vibrations and draws more negativity towards you.

First, the aim of nonviolence is ultimately to bring peace to yourself, to quell your own violence; the enemy outside serves only to mirror the enemy within.
Basically – we only have power over our own actions and reactions. When we are angry - we are not peaceful. When we choose not to react in anger, we are operating on a higher level of conscious awareness. That which we reflect outward – we draw back. ;)


Aili
 
Anna, I think you are missing the point... By retaliation, the 1.200 killed in 9/11 have at least quadruplicated just on the American side with the invasion of Aphganistan (sp?) and Iraque (sp?). All that retaliating violence with violence can do is perpetuate violence. Take Israel and the surrounding Muslim countries as an example.


The Jewish people in the days of Yeshuah expected a leader who would take them to freedom. They understood this "freedom" as freedom from the Roman domination. Rather than enter the "sacred city" on a stallion, in white armour, carrying a sword and leading an army, Yeshuah chose to enter the sacred city on a donkey in which his feet almost dragged upon the ground. Yeshuah was a messenger of peace, not only for the Jewish people, but for the whole of humankind. And by peace, he meant a peace for ALL people, not just the Jews. His message was intended for the whole of humankind, not just for one people or race.


His message was as misunderstood then as it still is now, and has been so (and is still misunderstood), for the last 2,000 years... :rolleyes:
 
I think Deepak is brilliant here. He is talking of a shift of consciousness and is doing so with the Christian "Christ." The title "Christ" means Savior. Jesus never claimed to be a savior. : angel


Deepak is using the teaching of the Bible - a world wide religion - to show the beauty of an ancient teaching before the Bible was ever written. But Deepak is using terms people today know and trust.


How do you get people to hear those ancient teachings? Show them what they do know and can relate to and then open the door - allowing them to experience and know more. ;)


With that said - I have yet to read the book, but having read others by him - and Aili's excerpts....a brilliant move on his part. )*(
 
Tony Parsons of UK (author of the The Open Secret) makes more sense than Deepak. Deepak's ideas comes from book knowledge and study and not from any direct insight or from his inner experience. My humble 2 cents. :)
 
Hi there,


Yes, based on my own experience with spirituality, I also have some restrictions regarding Chopra's approach to some points of view, but a lot of what he has done and said I find great... :thumbsup:


Hi Aili,


To me, the "soul-consciousness" is the key to understanding spirituality. It is the link that is still being ignored, or, at least, is still not sufficiently being taken into consideration by "science" for the full understanding of quantum mechanics. Science still insists that our thoughts/consciousness are derived from electro-chemical brain functions. I personally believe this is not so, but rather that the brain is a mere intermediary between the soul-consciousness and the physical body and realms.


In spiritual studies, it is understood that it will one day be possible to begin to physically understand the form of semi-matter of which the spiritual body consists of, but the soul-consciousness is an entirely different kettle of fish. "Consciousness" has no detectable mass, and is therefore not detectable by science, but IMO it plays a part, and in fact is at the heart of, all manifestations in the "physical" realms... :thumbsup:


BTW, glad to hear that you and Deborah have gotten together again and that you enjoyed Chopra's talk... :) ;)
 
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