The God Code & our DNA

[deborah]

HI Eevee,

So what was the best part for you? I find Braden's work fascinating. If you ever get a chance- - be sure to see him lecture in person. He's amazing.

Thanks for posting the information. I have been so busy lately - I cannot keep up. *S*S*S*S*S

Anyone else reading his books?

 

[Eevee]

Hi Deborah,


I like the way Mr. Braden builds up his message -the message of our body - in this book.

It is not easy to summarize what I learned most from it.

He showed that we are the result of an intended act of creation. Basically we are all the same, but there are diversities. These diversities can be a powerful tool when cooperating - they can show us different ways to approach things - more specifically in finding a solution on how to survive .
But when we focus too much on the diversities instead of keeping in mind that we are basically all the same, we destroy our own species.
Cooperation is the key. History shows that cooperation always has better results than competition. To advance - to grow beyond the 'technological adolescence' ,we need to cooperate.

The key to reaching such levels of advancement is that we must live through the present. We must survive our learning curve and find a way to become greater than the differences that have separated us in the past.

And I like the way he ends his book :

Beyond Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Shinto, Native, Aboriginal, white, black, red or yellow;man, woman or child, the message reminds us that we are all human.As humans, we share the same ancestors and exist as the children of the same Creator. In the moments that we doubt this one immutable truth,we need look no further than the cells of our body to be reminded. This is the power of the message within our cells.

Two thoughts from myself :

1. By reading this book, I got reminded of a message that I got in a past life (that I talked to you about before, Deborah) : One becomes two. Two needs three to become One again, and so on. It seems that NOW I understand it : the more division there is, the more it takes to become One again.

2. Previous to the God Code, I read Fingerprints of the Gods (Bauval) and two Zecharia Sitchin books. While reading the God Code and how we are created , I could not help but think about how in those books is described how the Annunaki created Man.

Eevee

 

[Eevee]

I have little time now, but I just started reading The Holographic Universe, and I thought a passage from that is relevant here also :

Because a man can ignore the counsel of his dreams and still live to be a hundred, Ullman believes this self-monitoring process is striving for mor than just the welfare of the individual.He believes that nature is concerned with the survival of the species. He also agrees with Bohm on the importance of wholeness and feels that dreams are nature's way of trying to counteract our seemingly unending compulsion to fragment the world. "An individual can disconnect from all that's cooperative, meaningful, and loving and still survive, but nations don't have that luxury. Unless we learn how to overcome all the ways we've fragmented the human race, nationally, religiously, economically, or whatever, we are going to continue to find ourselves in a position where we can accidentally destroy the whole picture.", says Ullman. "The only way we can do that is to look at how we fragment our existence as individuals. Dreams reflect our individual experience, but I think that's because there's a greater underlying need to preserve the species, to maintain species-connectedness."

Eevee

 

[deborah]

HI Eevee,

The Holographic Universe - great book! So what are your thoughts about Michael Talbot's book? I loved how he brought in the possibility of reincarnation into the Holomovement.

I came across some more interesting information recently
Gregg Braden's book Walking Between The Worlds- the Science of Compassion is another awesome book. IN it he talks about the book of Dan Winter who published his work in 1994 - titled Alphabet of the Heart. In it, Winter suggests that it is the resonant location of emotions wave upon the double helix that determines the structural site of active or inactive genetic codes.

Braden even goes so far as to ask - " Could it be that emotions "touch" upon our DNA and that is what tells our body's where to place the building blocks of life?" He suggests that we can view our emotional extremes, such as LOVE and FEAR from the perspective of an electrical and magnetic field expressed as a wave. Fear is a long and slow wave, Love is a high frequency faster wave.

He goes on to talk about chronic depression and how it is based on past FEAR -and results in a depressed immune system. Thereby effecting the quality of ones life. He suggests that our DNA is not FIXED as a set combination of patterns that originate at birth, but that our DNA codes are variable, responding to our QUALITY of thoughts, feelings and emotions.

How we act and react to life, with all of it's trauma, pain, etc....may be the doorway to embracing what we term compassion which in the long run - enables us to grow - spiritually. Perhaps it is by way of the heart new possibilites for mankind can emerge.

His book is very intense - and there is no way I can fully describe what he talks about here on the forum. I can try -but his pictures and diagrams help the words - which I cannot put here.

 

[Manjusri]

Hi Deborah,

I've not read Gregg Braden or Dan Winter, but am currently in the middle of Amit Goswami's latest book, The Quantum Doctor, where similar ideas are not only discussed but explained. You're probably already familiar with the idea that each of us has a mental, emotional and vital (energy) body (one of each), along with our physical body, and they all interect with each other somehow. He offers a good, coherent explanation of their inter-relationships and how that corresponds with health and illness, and while I'm not yet prepared to give you my interpretation of what he says I'll just say for now that according to him the physical body (which includes our DNA) is a representation of blueprints created by those other 'bodies.'

Now that I think of it, another person you might check out is Bruce Lipton (I don't recall if I mentioned him before). In one of his essays (either the first or second one listed) he explains how DNA changes in response to environmental factors. I just looked at his website for the first time in ages and see that he's finally published a book. It's been many years in the making and, if it's anything like his public talks, should be wonderful reading.

Namasté,
Manjusri

 

[Eevee]

You know, when I started reading the book, and began to understand the concept of the hologram, i had to think about the biblical quote where Jesus says something like : when your faith is big enough, and you say to this mountain: "Move", it will. If the Universe is a hologram, this is easy to understand of course.

Something else: In his foreword in The Holographic Universe, Talbot mentions a book by Marilyn Ferguson, The Aquarius Conspiracy.

...my summary of the view of the universe that arises when one considers Bohm and Pribram's conclusions in tandem, at the end of Chapter Two, is actually just a slight rephrasing of the words Ferguson uses to summarize the same sentiment in her bestselling book The Aquarius Conspiracy. My inability to come up with a different and better way to summarize the holographic idea should be viewed as a testament to Ferguson's clarity and succinctness as a writer.

It just happened to be that since a few weeks our local library did a 'clean up' and gave away older books for free. One of them was The Aquarius Conspiracy... I was so lucky to be the one that could take it. I plan to read it after I finished the Holographic Universe.


Eevee

 

[Gemeni]

Hi Deborah ...and all,
Have you come across the British scientist David Hamilton who says that his work shows that our moods change DNA?

By courtesy of 'synchroncity' there's a reprint of an article from one of our papers today at
www.rense.com/general60/chane.htm

We are what we want to be. First you have to stop being what you want others to think you are.


Love and light,
Gem.

P.S: Deborah, I'm still having a ball in Egypt.

 

[Manjusri]

Thanks for the link, Gem. Good article.

 

[deborah]

Hi Manjusri and Eevee,

I hope to look through the new references and links you have provided this weekend. It's the last two weeks of school right now - and I am just very busy. THANKS!

Hiya Gemeni! Egypt - my favorite place Nice to see you again!

 

[Karoliina]

The original link doesn't work, but the discussion is interesting. Enjoy this older thread.


Karoliina

 

[EggWHITES]

HI Veronika,
He started the presentation by examining the Hebrew Name of God. YHVH and the principles of Gematria: Then referencing the 17 elements of the periodic table that also equal numbers. The elements Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Oxygen and Carbon -are the elements that make us physically human -our bodies. The numbers on the periodic table - numeric equivalents and the Hebrew letters are equal in meaning! They are -


Element H N O C


Numeric equivelant 1 5 6 3


Hebrew letter Y H V G


YH = God Eternal and VG = within the body.

I am having a hard time understanding this connection? I am not understanding the connection with Hebrew?


Carbon should be 4 not 3 according to the numbers listed for oxygen and nitrogen. the 1,5,6,3 (4) are not numbers on the table besides Hydrogen, but are very very significant nevertheless.

 

[Sunniva]

I just wanted to make a quick comment on the neanderthal DNA vs. **** Sapiens DNA.


We don't know how to read neanderthal DNA yet. It is true that it differs somewhat from ours, but not tremendously. We share 98,5% of our DNA with the chimpanzees and - obviously - we're more alike the Neanderthals, so we probably share something like 99,7 or even more of our DNA with them, at least that's what the researchers believe.


My current research shows that the popular image of the neanderthal is based on almost nothing. There are huge problems with decoding ancient DNA, huge problems with dating - and basically the samples are very few. In any other case no scientist would want to make a conclusion based on the sample size available.

 

[deborah]

HI Sunniva,


Interesting.

In any other case no scientist would want to make a conclusion based on the sample size available.

So the listing in Science News March 2004 - Vol -165 about modern man's DNA and the Neanderthal is a stretch? Can you explain more? I am very interested.


About chromosome 2 -do you know anything about that? According to Braden is has not always been around and that there had to be TWO SPECIES to make it. He also pointed out (gad it's been four years since I attended - perhaps I can dig up the book next week and check) this kind of fusion does not happen in natural evolution.


Thank you for your insight! It is very much appreciated.

 

[Sunniva]

Hi Deborah


Thanks for asking - I love to talk about it : angel

So the listing in Science News March 2004 - Vol -165 about modern man's DNA and the Neanderthal is a stretch?

Yes and no It is true that the neanderthal DNA does not match ours, but we still know very little about the difference. It is a process of reading the three-billion-letter genome that makes up neanderthal DNA. In 2006 the main research group on this announced that they had deciphered one million, last year another Germany-based research group announced that they had identified about 70 million letters. That's about 2% of the whole genome. Based on that, conclusion made in 2004 would be a stretch. What they see so far is that for most of the sequence there is no difference between neanderthal and modern human DNA - the difference makes up only 0,5%.


There are huge problems working with ancient DNA. Especially contamination. Ancient DNA in fossils is very faint and, obviously, with only a 0,5% difference contamination by modern DNA can be almost impossible to catch. Let alone the fact that modern human DNA differs individually by - I think - about 0,35%.


Basically, there is still a long way to go before we understand neanderthal DNA. When the genome is fully identified it's also worth remembering that the sample size is small and that neanderthal DNA also differed individually, so there is a discussion of how representative the genome actually is.

About chromosome 2 -do you know anything about that?

No, I must admit that I haven't heard of that before. However, as far as I can understand it implies that the neanderthals and h0m0 sapiens interbred. That is - at the moment - one of the big questions that are unanswered. Problem, again, is the sample size. It is generally accepted that modern humans and neanderthals did not interbred. The remains of a child, a young boy, from Gibraltar was long believed to be a hybrid, however the arguments have yet again been questioned. Another scull from Germany was also praised as the proof of interbreeding, however new datings prooved that this was not an early modern human, but from the bronze age.


For parallels we usually look to the animal kingdom. Here we can see that different races of the same species are able to mate, however their offspring is usually infertile. Some people suggest that this was how the neanderthals became extinct. That they simply interbred with modern humans bringing infertile kids to the world and thus, eventually, died out. I don't think that's an argument that explains much else, but the fact that the neanderthals died out.


Eta: I just did some research on chromosome 2 and I did misunderstand a bit The chromosome 2 is viewed as the result of a fusion between two ancestral ape chromosomes, so it goes much further back than just neanderthal and modern humans. But in that case, Braden is correct. It did take two species to make chromosome 2

 

[deborah]

An really old thread new members might enjoy reading or adding on to.

 

[John Tat]

Deborah


Does this have any connection to what my source has told me that all of us are three in one and clarified it by saying all of us are the father, the son and the holy ghost?