Sexual dysfunctionality and past lives

[Twilight]

Was there an evolutionary purpose of Pedofillia?


If the Romans called themselves civilized, than why would they commit such pedophilia acts. >~< I'm sorry if I'm being creepy, something that has stumped me.

 

[Batgeek22]

I, unfortunately because of my job have come into contact with a large number of sexual deviants. I can tell you firsthand that many of them I sense are victims themselves of some other force. These are the good neighbors that seemly go nuts and do something completely out of character. many seem bewildered as to why they did what they did. Others though are evil. These people will set your hairs on end. They have a dark aura around them. I get nauseated just having to be around them. I occasionally have caught them staring at me with this smile like they know I can see them for what they are. They will even go out of their way to engage me in conversation as if to challenge me.

 

[AOSpare]

Sadly pedophilia is a new word. In the olden days of Greece and Rome and in the Orient, pretty much was open season on children from deviants and brutes. If your family or friend did not defend you then it was all over. But I feel there should be a distinction made of kinky behaviors (role-playing) between consenting adults and committing heinous acts with beast or children. But that's just me...*dance*


Much of deviant sexual stuff is a telltale of some psychological quirk and NOTHING TO DO with evolution.

Was there an evolutionary purpose of Pedofillia?
If the Romans called themselves civilized, than why would they commit such pedophilia acts. >~< I'm sorry if I'm being creepy, something that has stumped me.

 

[tanguerra]

I, unfortunately because of my job have come into contact with a large number of sexual deviants. I can tell you firsthand that many of them I sense are victims themselves of some other force. These are the good neighbors that seemly go nuts and do something completely out of character. many seem bewildered as to why they did what they did. Others though are evil. These people will set your hairs on end. They have a dark aura around them. I get nauseated just having to be around them. I occasionally have caught them staring at me with this smile like they know I can see them for what they are. They will even go out of their way to engage me in conversation as if to challenge me.

That's creepy Batgeek. Since you're so sensitive to this stuff, learn how to surround yourself with 'light' to keep yourself safe. It's important.

 

[tanguerra]

Was there an evolutionary purpose of Pedofillia?

I saw a documentary recently that talked about a malfunction in the brain, where the urge to protect children, which does have an evolutionary purpose, goes terribly wrong. There is nothing good about it, any more than there is good in picking the wings off flies, beating up people weaker than oneself, or any number other abhorrent things that some individuals do. I hope that one day this behaviour is eliminated from society altogether. Indeed, many people are working on doing that.

 

[Twilight]

Sadly pedophilia is a new word. In the olden days of Greece and Rome and in the Orient, pretty much was open season on children from deviants and brutes. If your family or friend did not defend you then it was all over. But I feel there should be a distinction made of kinky behaviors (role-playing) between consenting adults and committing heinous acts with beast or children. But that's just me...*dance*
Much of deviant sexual stuff is a telltale of some psychological quirk and NOTHING TO DO with evolution.

I saw a documentary recently that talked about a malfunction in the brain, where the urge to protect children, which does have an evolutionary purpose, goes terribly wrong. There is nothing good about it, any more than there is good in picking the wings off flies, beating up people weaker than oneself, or any number other abhorrent things that some individuals do. I hope that one day this behaviour is eliminated from society altogether. Indeed, many people are working on doing that.

Totally agree, although kind awkward. I hope the situation clears up also. Is there a link to the documentary?

 

[dking777]

Was there an evolutionary purpose of Pedofillia?

I think the general public has a misconception about ancient practices of pederasty and confuse it with pedophilia. Pedophilia is defined as sexual attraction to children 11 years of age and younger. Pederasty involved youths generally between the age of 14 and 20. In Ancient Greece - this was a practice among the aristocrats. You had to be well off and there was a 'courtship' ritual - where the younger had to accept the proposal of the older male involved.


He is a view from one scholar on the subject.

Louis Crompton defined pederasty as:
A relation between an older male and someone younger, usually a youth between the ages of fourteen and twenty. The older man was called the erastes or lover. Ideally, it was his duty to be the boy's teacher and protector and serve as a model of courage, virtue, and wisdom to his beloved, or eromenos, whose attraction lay in his beauty, his youth, and his promise of future moral, intellectual, and physical excellence.


The eromenos was generally expected to stop being in a passive relationship with an older male when his beard first started to develop. The men who had relationships with prepubescent boys around twelve or younger were generally looked down upon for their actions. According to Colin Spencer, this reproach was not for any legal reasons, but due to the fact that the Greeks thought the prepubescent boys did not have the mental capacity to be fully aware of what they were doing.


The eromenos, however, was underage and under the authority of his paternal guardian until the age of eighteen. Due to this, pederastic relationships could only function with the support and accordance of the child's parents, mainly that of his father. In order for this arrangement to work, the erastes had to have good standing in the community, be fairly affluent, and follow the correct procedures in conformity to the Greek ideal of sophr?syne (moderation).

So, from a historical perspective - I think ancient cultures frowned upon pedophilia as much as we do in modern society.


Sincerely,


DKing

 

[dking777]

How did you remove the spirits from the "big bully at the playground"?

Sorry, I wrote out a reply to your questions yesterday and it got deleted. I will try again.


I don't know that I had a 'hand' in 'removing' a spirit from another person. The word 'repent' literally means "to change one's mind." The young 'bully' changed his attitude and mind about giving his 'thoughts' and 'emotions' to this 'dark spirit.'

What is it that they feed on, and how it affects the human? When exactly do they feed, how do they enter the human energy field?

What I witnessed many times as a child with all sorts of 'dark spirits' was them 'whispering' into the ear of a human and the human acting as a 'puppet' and repeating the 'ugly words' of this 'dark spirit.' I read a chapter in Victor Zammit's book on the afterlife and was surprised to see this expressed. We think our thoughts are our own - but sometimes there are 'dark spirits' trying to influence our thoughts and emotions toward a negative expression. The saying goes, it is not what goes into a person's mouth that defiles him as much as what comes out of his mouth. What comes out of the mouth? Words. When I was a child, the spiritual guides I worked with - all advise me to stop and think before I speak - to make sure the 'thoughts and emotions' being expressed were my own.


One example of this 'feeding' process was a 'sidewalk' preacher I encountered at the age of 21. My 'second sight' came on while he was standing on the corner spewing out words of 'hate' and trying to masqueraded it with religion. To me, it looked and smelt like 'vomit' coming out of his mouth. He was totally deaf, dumb and blind to the sight of all the 'demons' hosting on the 'spiritual vomit' coming out of his mouth - as well as a group of 'critters' large and small feeding on it - on the ground as well as on his body. I told him that in my sight and mind - he wasn't doing God's work - as much as he was feeding the devil and his own.


I don't think you had to have 'second sight' in that situation to know he was making a 'fool of himself. If a group of 10 adult minds had been present and blind to the 'feeding of the demons' you could have known just by his words alone that he was lost in his own thoughts and emotions about the subject of religion. He was expressing 'ill-will' thoughts toward others.

If you see them, isn't it possible just to tell them to go get lost? Shielding or something.. How come spirits be stronger than humans?

When these things figured out I had sight of them - it would upset them and send them into a frenzy. Their method is to 'blindside' a person. So, trying to tell them to get lost - would just cause them to start laughing hysterically. What would send them running with their eyes bugged out? When I called on God to bear witness to their sight and presence. A beam of light would strike from above like a lightening strike and they would take off running. What destroys darkness? Light. This works in the spiritual realm as well. There power was due to the fact that humans were 'spiritual blind' to them. The shield I used was always to say a prayer and call on God to bear witness to what I was having 'sight' of - and give me protection from them.


Sincerely,


DKing

 

[dking777]

And the basic question... is this a way to demonize sexual desire, as if that is something bad, and maybe because culture does not know a way how to use that energy in a life supporting way, it becomes something bad, therefore, it becomes destructive, due to the denial of this basic force?

I had sight of these 'critters' from the age of 8 to the age of 21. Prior to the age of 12 and later as an adult, the majority of them had to do with 'anger' or 'hate' - rather than lust.


I felt that when the 'critters' of lust showed up on the playground in force - it was a battlefield. I think we all walk onto that battlefield when the 'hormonal' change comes about and we sort it out in our own minds. I felt the biggest victims that were causalities - were the 'bullies' who were using 'force' due to their physical strength to inflict pain, hurt, harm and injury on others often motivated by a confused state of mind that involved lust.


When I was 12 and that 'sexual desire' hit me like a 'bull' let out of pin - I looked at it as a 'beast' that needed to be tamed and put under my control - rather than it having power and control over me. I think we all go through that stage and I feel the majority of people in the world - tame that beast and put it under control.


When I was 13, I started asking my peers what they were motivated toward and for. Most everyone who was being honest said the same thing. True love. Do a few get caught up in 'desires' that go against our inner nature? Yes, I saw it happening and one of the questions I posed to the spirit guides during this process - was why them. I was told it was a 'carryover' from a former life. I came to look at these 'critters' as 'pets' to some of my peers that had followed them from one life to the next. I even saw the 'critters' (aka demons) of a couple of my siblings show up to pick up where they left off in the last life. When I asked my spiritual guides why - I was told they had to learn their lessons and overcome them.


In the end - I do feel 'divine love' conquers all. Some have a different path than others to accomplish that goal.


Sincerely,


DKing

 

[TheGlow]

Disclaimer I hope I don't offend anyone with my post. This is something I see regularly along the same lines as the lust spirits. It hurts me to see it so rampant and for people to feel so alone.


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So this is all very interesting. I would like to propose if there are lust demons there must be something equally damaging that keeps people from sharing that divine oneness physical intimate connection with their spouses.


I was one of those unlucky kids. Survived it had a negative view of sex for a while. Guilt, shame... A lot of people in our society feel that towards sex. Even married people. I managed to get passed it by seeing it for what it truely is a divine gift.


I know tons of sexless marriages where one spouse is desperate not just for sex but the sharing of energy and affection that occurs during sex, but the other think not being interested is excuse enough to leave the other deprived.


I really think a lot of this withholding of physical connection causes the neglected spouse to go through much turmoil, and in many cases can cause his/her view of sex to move from divine connection to one of lust to get their needs met. The more shame and self loathing the person feels about the regection the more distorted their sexual needs get.


Not an excuse but I think someone restricting another from physical connection to anyone else for the rest of their life (marriage) then denying to provide it themself is just plain damaging.


Curious what those who talk of lust demons know of what might cause this breakdown.


I hope my comment above do not hurt or offend. My job makes people open up to me for some reason and as a result I know WAY to much about many marriages. So many have one partner who would be happy to never be touched again and others have people that not only want to be touched but specifically by their spouse. These people tell me this stuff and those mostly men who go without for long periods eventually stop specifically desiring their spouse and get into more superficial stuff. It's sad to see so many feel alone.

 

[Blackbird]

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I know tons of sexless marriages where one spouse is desperate not just for sex but the sharing of energy and affection that occurs during sex, but the other think not being interested is excuse enough to leave the other deprived.


I really think a lot of this withholding of physical connection causes the neglected spouse to go through much turmoil, and in many cases can cause his/her view of sex to move from divine connection to one of lust to get their needs met. The more shame and self loathing the person feels about the regection the more distorted their sexual needs get.


Not an excuse but I think someone restricting another from physical connection to anyone else for the rest of their life (marriage) then denying to provide it themself is just plain damaging.


I hope my comment above do not hurt or offend. My job makes people open up to me for some reason and as a result I know WAY to much about many marriages. So many have one partner who would be happy to never be touched again and others have people that not only want to be touched but specifically by their spouse. These people tell me this stuff and those mostly men who go without for long periods eventually stop specifically desiring their spouse and get into more superficial stuff. It's sad to see so many feel alone.

On the other hand, I have seen, all too closely, a marriage in which an already broken, twisted and perverse man claimed exactly what you have describe -- that his wife, much younger was causing him such pain and deprivation -- when in fact he had been attempting to force her into acts inspired by his hard-core porn addiction from the time she was 19 on. And I don't mean "Hustler" magazine -- I mean women urinated on, spit on, violated with foreign objects, etc. and etc. But to hear it from him, he was a tragic, lonely figure deprived of his 'rights.'


I would tread very carefully when listening to such accounts.

 

[TheGlow]

On the other hand, I have seen, all too closely, a marriage in which an already broken, twisted and perverse man claimed exactly what you have describe -- that his wife, much younger was causing him such pain and deprivation -- when in fact he had been attempting to force her into acts inspired by his hard-core porn addiction from the time she was 19 on. And I don't mean "Hustler" magazine -- I mean women urinated on, spit on, violated with foreign objects, etc. and etc. But to hear it from him, he was a tragic, lonely figure deprived of his 'rights.'
I would tread very carefully when listening to such accounts.

I'm sure that is true in many cases but I hear it directly from women to so I know it is sadly rampant and wonder how even marital sex got so damaged.


I likely shouldn't have posted but maybe asked dk in a private message. His account just really got me wondering if they also fed off the loneliness and isolation people feel when they are denied healthy connection from those they love.


As an aside I do not ask people these thing they just grow to trust me over years of working together. For some reason think I am their shrink. I hear way to much about suicides, abuse, details of finances ect. This is just something I hear a lot and it makes me wonder why this is so rampant.

 

[Twilight]

I think the general public has a misconception about ancient practices of pederasty and confuse it with pedophilia. Pedophilia is defined as sexual attraction to children 11 years of age and younger. Pederasty involved youths generally between the age of 14 and 20. In Ancient Greece - this was a practice among the aristocrats. You had to be well off and there was a 'courtship' ritual - where the younger had to accept the proposal of the older male involved.
He is a view from one scholar on the subject.


So, from a historical perspective - I think ancient cultures frowned upon pedophilia as much as we do in modern society.


Sincerely,


DKing

If my past life experiences are correct you might be surprised unfortunately or maybe not. I'm really sorry it's just dark past life memories.

 

[Twilight]

Disclaimer I hope I don't offend anyone with my post. This is something I see regularly along the same lines as the lust spirits. It hurts me to see it so rampant and for people to feel so alone.
......


So this is all very interesting. I would like to propose if there are lust demons there must be something equally damaging that keeps people from sharing that divine oneness physical intimate connection with their spouses.


I was one of those unlucky kids. Survived it had a negative view of sex for a while. Guilt, shame... A lot of people in our society feel that towards sex. Even married people. I managed to get passed it by seeing it for what it truely is a divine gift.


I know tons of sexless marriages where one spouse is desperate not just for sex but the sharing of energy and affection that occurs during sex, but the other think not being interested is excuse enough to leave the other deprived.


I really think a lot of this withholding of physical connection causes the neglected spouse to go through much turmoil, and in many cases can cause his/her view of sex to move from divine connection to one of lust to get their needs met. The more shame and self loathing the person feels about the regection the more distorted their sexual needs get.


Not an excuse but I think someone restricting another from physical connection to anyone else for the rest of their life (marriage) then denying to provide it themself is just plain damaging.


Curious what those who talk of lust demons know of what might cause this breakdown.


I hope my comment above do not hurt or offend. My job makes people open up to me for some reason and as a result I know WAY to much about many marriages. So many have one partner who would be happy to never be touched again and others have people that not only want to be touched but specifically by their spouse. These people tell me this stuff and those mostly men who go without for long periods eventually stop specifically desiring their spouse and get into more superficial stuff. It's sad to see so many feel alone.

I wonder if there could be a members only private thread concerning victims and reincarnated victoms of graphic mistreatment, just curious if that idea would work.

 

[Twilight]

Disclaimer I hope I don't offend anyone with my post. This is something I see regularly along the same lines as the lust spirits. It hurts me to see it so rampant and for people to feel so alone.
......


So this is all very interesting. I would like to propose if there are lust demons there must be something equally damaging that keeps people from sharing that divine oneness physical intimate connection with their spouses.


I was one of those unlucky kids. Survived it had a negative view of sex for a while. Guilt, shame... A lot of people in our society feel that towards sex. Even married people. I managed to get passed it by seeing it for what it truely is a divine gift.


I know tons of sexless marriages where one spouse is desperate not just for sex but the sharing of energy and affection that occurs during sex, but the other think not being interested is excuse enough to leave the other deprived.


I really think a lot of this withholding of physical connection causes the neglected spouse to go through much turmoil, and in many cases can cause his/her view of sex to move from divine connection to one of lust to get their needs met. The more shame and self loathing the person feels about the regection the more distorted their sexual needs get.


Not an excuse but I think someone restricting another from physical connection to anyone else for the rest of their life (marriage) then denying to provide it themself is just plain damaging.


Curious what those who talk of lust demons know of what might cause this breakdown.


I hope my comment above do not hurt or offend. My job makes people open up to me for some reason and as a result I know WAY to much about many marriages. So many have one partner who would be happy to never be touched again and others have people that not only want to be touched but specifically by their spouse. These people tell me this stuff and those mostly men who go without for long periods eventually stop specifically desiring their spouse and get into more superficial stuff. It's sad to see so many feel alone.

Not offended at all, I admire your bravery and truth be told you aren't alone for sure ;I

 

[Demi]

Thanks for your input, dKing


If you feel there is something that you'd rather PM me about, feel free to do so.

 

[Sisley]

Sexual dysfunctionality and past lives


I couldn’t help but relate to that Q at the top of the thread and I derive this from my WWII experience as an orphaned German Jew.


I traced the loss of my widowed mother to 1938, just after the Anschluss. Among some of the people who had it in them to shelter me and hide me at their huge personal risks, there was at times an expectation in returning the favor that went beyond the helping out for the in-house and on-property chores.


Getting queered was a condition that had to be tolerated without ado as there was no longer any parental protection and no recourse of any kind to go by. The type of conditions that prevailed in that time and place was a breeding ground for all kinds of off-the-wall behavior and the only rule was: if it could be gotten away with, it was done.


Now that I recognize how it affected me in this current life, I am better able now to bring it to closure.