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Jim78

Jim78

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You know....I'm not too sure if the reincarnation community is doing me any good anymore.

I want to talk to claimants entrenched in the spit and sawdust of past life knowledge. Those who stand apart from their current life generations. Those who understand the weight of the experiences of their past lives.

If I'm to hear from a farmer I want to hear how his hands were calloused by manual labour and such.

If I've to hear from an Egyptian Pharoah I want to hear how the weight of his status played on his heart and his emotions.

I read this bollox from The Irish Times about my past lives:


QUOTE:

Describing Michael Collins as “the hero of our nation”, Kenny recounted how Patrick Collins had moved to Chicago at the turn of the century and encouraged his younger brother to join him, even securing him a job in the National Bank.

“How different our history might have been if Michael had accepted that invitation but fate did not have it thus. Instead Michael Collins was not content to see things as they are and that’s why he dreamed of things that never were,” he said.

"More than that he made his dreams a reality, winning Ireland its independence and setting us on the road to the country that we are now.

END QUOTE.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/pol...y-as-he-meets-collins-s-descendants-1.3109856

The 'Hero of our nation'! Pfft...

I remember people approaching me in hushed tones, humbled etc...

All these bright-eyed young women looking at me like little girls....smiling.

I remember those who weren't impressed by me either. I loved them, they were people I could deal with. Who wants feckin' yes men?

So what made me the 'hero of a nation'? Simple....balls. I didn't care about status or vanity or any such thing. In all my Irish lives I've loved my country. I have always been a patriot true and fearless ( to paraphrase Winston Churchill ).

Like I said to the Chief over six years ago...."This nation was built in places like pubs. I'm delighted to see that's still true nearly 100 years later."

The truth is I wasn't career-minded, I wasn't self-motivated except in the sense that I like a pat on the head as much as the next man. I was simply a soldier doing my duty for my fellow countrymen.

I'll tell you all, I tried to talk with my counselor about the crippling guilt I felt about Bloody Sunday 1920 and he didn't hear a bloody word I said. He said, "Michael Collins had a lot of admirable qualities". " Yeah man", I thought, "You obviously weren't there with your naive nonsense."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1920)

That's what I've been missing from expressing my reincarnation journey, spit and sawdust from others. Grounded practicality. I don't want to hear about great heroes of the past nor the romanticism of farmers throughout history. That's just not how it was IMO.

I want to hear stories and feedback. I want to hear even cold comfort for fecks sake.

Somebody please tell me I was OK?

Somebody please tell me they worked til their hands bled and went to bed hungry?

Somebody, please tell me they work in IT and go to bed with full bellies in their current life?

Somebody please give me a reason to continue to have faith in the reincarnation community?

I know you are out there.
 
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Jim,

My inbox is open. I can talk to you about my Egyptian Pharaoh lifetime and how when I was younger I didn’t want to succeed my father as Pharaoh and wanted to be a ‘normal boy’. It wasn’t until I met my first wife in that lifetime that I decided to give it a go (because if I didn’t Egypt would have fallen apart) my Queen lifetime about how I helped turned Egypt’s whole religious aspects on its head and I struggled with knowing it was wrong but had no choice because I was ‘just the Queen’ or my WWII lifetime where in the Ghettos and camp I literally stole what I could to survive and did what I could to get revenge (because I was angry at Hitler)

I can be as real as you want to be. It’s the entire reason why I have Fibromyalgia because my past lives still have so much realism and residue to heal.

Eva x
 
Jim, there are quite a number of people that I personally would like to hear from, I would love to thank the loyal colonists here in the USA, the men that held the flagpole up, in Fort Henry I think, while as many as a thousand British ships fired their cannons tying to knock it down and knowing that they would die. The flagpole was left at an angle held up by their dead bodies. Those are the fearless people that I hold in reverence, not the current characters we now have that now break their arms patting their own backs. The ones that are not mentioned today in many history books in some states that now teach that they were Barbarians, thieves, and all-around bad people. It isn't the "famous" people necessarily that impress me. I do not know of any of them remembering that past-life action.
 
Hi Jim,

There are other people on the board who have discussed their regrets and their endings in terms of WWII, such as Benjamin and Tanker. There are also Landsend and Cansol, I believe, who have laid out the real nitty gritty of the Vietnam war and its aftermath. I am sure there are others on this board who you could converse with who also are struggling with feelings of despair, regret, anger and etc. based on past life war actions and experiences. Likewise, there are whole boards/forums dedicated to military past lives. So, I think there is no shortage of folks who have been through it and know what it is like. For myself, I have quit trying to recover PL memories, at least on my own. Maybe one day with a skilled person I can trust I will try to confront the things that are the source of terror when I try to "go there". However, for the moment I let sleeping dogs lie as best I can. This doesn't mean that the rest of us are living in La La Land. Life can be pretty miserable. Disease and death strike everywhere, including those close to us. In many respects I am here to get away from the darkness and do something that interests me. That could be true of many others. But we're still here to talk and ready to talk, even when we don't really know what to say that might help.

Cordially,
S&S
 
All that I want at this point in this capacity is simply to leave this world behind and its dramas as I am tired of living out the dysfunction and division that is so deeply entrenched in the human experience. Don't know how it is for most but it is clear that the writing has been on the wall for anyone who cares to take notice that life cannot continue as it has in this world before something truly horrendous happens ending it all and the other side has been frustrated with our poor progress at times for so long they wanted to pull the plug. As for finding others they are out there but like most they are caught up in the cares and dramas of this life.
 
Hi Eva1942. I inboxed you.

Hi Ken. My point is that no one should impress anyone. When I said I like a pat on the head I simply meant that I like an acknowledgment when I do 'good' work. Outside of that the acts were there own reward.

I guess what I am saying is that I am looking for a ghost of a past life in a claimant. Whatever is the expression of ego that manifests in successive lives. I feel that monkey on my back constantly. I've felt it from a few reincarnationists but I want to see if any are drawn to this topic.

Hi S&S. I've spread my wings to other forums but I've found some have dismissed my own claims for very shaky reasons.

I claim to be a reincarnation of a man who dealt with the Chief in his past life....that was accepted. I also claim to have dealt wit a leader in my current life...that was dismissed as lunacy. I find that insulting. The powerful eat, sleep and crap like us. Is it a case of familiarity breeds contempt? In others eyes could I not have had dealings with the powerful because I am talking to them? In much the same way that non believers don't accept past life claims it seems to me that many reincarnationists don't accept current life claims. Where the middle ground?

Hi TABA. You neglect to consider who holds the reins. A competent leader won't let the world burn. I speak from experience. Of course superpowers dick measuring could spell doom though...
 
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I'm sorry, Jim78, because I can read your pain in your words. I guess with time and for those who has stood or stand outside the events themselves tend to have a limit view and legendary stories etc paint up a rather glorified and romantic view of the matter.

If I should take only one example that I have and which has nothing to do with the world you were in is when my past life self knew James Dean, the actor. Only when she knew him he was real. He was even treated badly and looked down on as a bum. He did not have much clothes. His hair had a life of it's own. When he ate he was really, really hungry but tried to hold back the instinct to eat like a hungry wolf. He was very sweet. Very funny. When I have seen those huge pictures, paintings of him on buildings and what have you it is almost like I wish to duck, almost as if they "frighten" me a little perhaps because they are so far from the person that he come across as in my memories of him. That is not to say he does not deserve that kind of fame and that kind of glorification, but it still feels unreal, like a product and that things are left out, less humanized, if you know what I mean.

I'm not sure I know what words could help you, except that I see the good in you in the words you write.

/Jaimie
 
Having been a farmer in the 1600s in England, I honestly don't know how I could romanticize that. I have very few fond memories of that time.

It wasn't some glamorous poetic life out of a novel. It was really hard and I worked my fingers to the bone. I died in a war and was basically forgotten in time. I'm fine with that tbh
 
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Jim, I meant no disrespect, was just taking the oppertunity to include those selfless and brave men that gave their lives for our country.
 
Hi Jamie. Thanks for your words.

I can relate to some of what you write about James Dean from my current life.

Growing up as a kid adults told me I was meant for something special. As I got older and my life and myself became more screwed up I found myself homeless, nine and a half stone, dressed in stinking rags and sitting in a barn with rats running all around me. I was 23.

I wondered "Where's this special thing I'm supposed to do? Where is this 'greatness' I'm supposed to touch? I'm just an all singing all dancing hobo." At that moment the vision of a woman appeared among the clutter of the barn. An elegant, beautiful brunette, walking tall and slowly towards me wearing an evening dress. I wondered what it meant.

At 32 I went for a burger and met the woman from my vision in my real life. She was even wearing the same evening dress. Meeting her propelled me on a course where I fought for nearly six years, I fought for her. I infiltrated the highest rungs of society and made an Earth shattering discovery that compelled me to make a humanistic decision for the good of all...even you Jaime. It would have affected everyone. I finally touched 'greatness'.

In my experience these things occur so we can learn. The decision I made forced me to fade anonymously back into history and lost me the love of my soulmate. It changed me. It was only after I stopped fighting that I saw my past lives in the context of what they mean for my soul.

I'm sure James Deans life journey happened just as it was meant to. I know that he is not dehumanised on the other side of the veil...yet I feel the dehumanisation of myself that you speak of and its a lonely, painful thing.
 
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That's cool Ken. So many men have given their lives for a cause. What's at the forefront of my mind when I remember the dead is how most of them are forgotten and they gave just as much as any 'great hero'. I wish they were remembered too.
 
Jim78 said:
Hi Klaud. Could you tell me a bit more about that life please?
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Sure! I was male, had a wife and a few little mouths to feed.

I was a very religious man, despite not always having time to go to church as much as I wanted to. I'm pretty sure it was his voice that I heard praying in my dream not too long ago.

Most of what I remember is literally just farm work and a not very interesting daily life. Planting, harvesting, etc. It was a pretty simple life and we didn't have much besides each other.

As for the war, it was the English civil war (1642-1651). I didn't want any part in it, but it's not like I could really say no in a situation like that. Ended up getting myself killed in battle, leaving my poor wife and kids to fend for themselves.

On a lighter note: that life is the very reason I can now eat my weight in soup, stews, and bread lol.
 
Jim78 said:
32 I went for a burger and met the woman from my vision in my real life. She was even wearing the same evening dress. Meeting her propelled me on a course where I fought for nearly six years, I fought for her. I infiltrated the highest rungs of society and made an Earth shattering discovery that compelled me to make a humanistic decision for the good of all...even you Jaime. It would have affected everyone. I finally touched 'greatness'.

In my experience these things occur so we can learn. The decision I made forced me to fade anonymously back into history and lost me the love of my soulmate. It changed me. It was only after I stopped fighting that I saw my past lives in the context of what they mean for my soul.
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In WWII, my love and I fought for seven years. We were caught a few times and I even gained the tag ‘mistress’ but it didn’t change anything about ourselves. I guess we were just like two rebellious kids in the higher echelons of Hitler’s SS.

I don’t think we can ever ‘fade anonymously’ back in to history, because we ARE part of history and who we were is who we ARE. They’re us and always will be. My Jewish Mama always taught me to be proud of who you were regardless of whether you were loved or hated.

Eva x
 
Hi Klaud. Can you tell me a bit more about your war experiences please? Were you conscripted, rank etc...
 
Well, in fairness Eva, I have faded back into history in the Earthbound sense. You won't read about me in the papers or see me on TV and such. My tactics aren't inspiring anyone in my current life.

I'm delighted about that but in an Earthbound historical context Jim won't be remembered. That's undeniable. There aren't even many pictures or video footage of me compared to most people nowadays.
 
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Well, in fairness Eva, I have faded back into history in the Earthbound sense. You won't read about me in the papers or see me on TV and such. My tactics aren't inspiring anyone in my current life.

I'm delighted about that but in an Earthbound historical context Jim won't be remembered. That's undeniable. There aren't even many pictures or video footage of me compared to most people nowadays.
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It's interesting that you say that Jim. In many ways my path is different to yours, but in this we are similar. I'm pretty much anonymous nowadays. Mostly I don't use my real name online for example, and in keeping with that, there are very few photos or videos which might undo that anonymity.
 
I don't use my real name online either Speedwell. I do sometimes wonder if I've said too much here because it is a public forum but I don't use names and I keep my experiences general for my current life. I don't mind naming my past lives because there's nothing stopping another person claiming one of my past lives so to the casual observer I ain't credible so it doesn't really matter.

I will be annoyed by a double claimant however. Can't help that...
 
Jim78 said:
Hi Klaud. Can you tell me a bit more about your war experiences please? Were you conscripted, rank etc...
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I believe I was conscripted, which was likely why I was so salty about it. Probably wouldn't have volunteered on my own. Still not a fan of war or drafts tbh.

I'm afraid I can't tell you too much about the military service because I didn't see much. There was some very very basic training and it was over fairly quickly for me.
 
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