Ok so i was eating dinner and my mom asked me if I remembered when i first went on a plane and I said something like,"This is what I ate when we went down." It has stuck in my head and i want to know what you guys think about this. This leads me to think i could have been in a pilot in my previous life....
Pilot in my previous life?
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I have a vested interest in your question because of my dreams from a previous incarnation as possibly a RAF Pilot in WWII.
There's an old saying that goes something like this: "The Devil is in the Details" meaning NOT that the Devil is involved in Past Lives, but that the details (often small) from a Past Life (PL) can be a "bear" to decipher, but let's try!
(1) Have you in this lifetime EVER been on a plane (commercial, private or otherwise) where you ate a similar meal?
(2) How did you come about that statement in your post: "This is what I ate when we went down." Was it from a sleep dream, a daydream, a premonition or by other avenues?
(3) Was the PL meal fancy or something basic (like military rations) which would possibly help you to identify the plane in the previous lifetime.
(4) Were there any other memories associated with the eating of the meal?
These questions will lay the groundwork for further investigations into the possibility of being a Pilot in a previous lifetime.
Please feel free to write back with anymore questions that you might have, or with any answers to the questions asked above, which might help in answering your question.
There's an old saying that goes something like this: "The Devil is in the Details" meaning NOT that the Devil is involved in Past Lives, but that the details (often small) from a Past Life (PL) can be a "bear" to decipher, but let's try!
(1) Have you in this lifetime EVER been on a plane (commercial, private or otherwise) where you ate a similar meal?
(2) How did you come about that statement in your post: "This is what I ate when we went down." Was it from a sleep dream, a daydream, a premonition or by other avenues?
(3) Was the PL meal fancy or something basic (like military rations) which would possibly help you to identify the plane in the previous lifetime.
(4) Were there any other memories associated with the eating of the meal?
These questions will lay the groundwork for further investigations into the possibility of being a Pilot in a previous lifetime.
Please feel free to write back with anymore questions that you might have, or with any answers to the questions asked above, which might help in answering your question.
I was going to Florida and this was my first plane ride. I always had a fascination with planes and have wanted to be a pilot. I don't remember much from the trip at all not even saying what my mom said that i said... However i will mention a side from that trip that when my parents got me a flight simulator game for the computer that i was able to land a plane and do perfect takeoff and landings like i had been doing it for years. My parents also told me that when i was around that same age that i referred to myself as "Emit"...
Nightrain
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Eating while flying can be an associative memory when involved with airliners and dirigibles, which could help to narrow down your memory. In cases involving fighter planes and bombers, as Hydrolad will attest, eating and drinking before or while flying can be a big "no-no". There can be no worse experience performing aerobatics with a full stomach or sitting aboard a freezing aluminum frame with little or no comfort facility for hours on end.
Ghost of Gumby
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What were you eating when you said "this is what I ate when we went down" ? I think that if you were a commercial aviation pilot and your plane crashed in your PL, then you were not taking off or landing, because you would not have been having diner at that time. So this means that you were on a long flight. Most planes that crash from high altitute encounter turbulence, like a storm or high winds. This could be researchable.Jmvboy said:
Ghost of Gumby
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I found from Google that many airlines serve peas with the meals on long flights, including American, United, Quantas, British Airways. Do you have an estimate of the year this may have happened?
It does seem like it would have been a long flight you were on. In my most recent past life I was a fighter pilot, and as Nightrain1 says, eating before/during flying would generally be a bad idea. So I'm inclined to think commercial aviation, as others have said.
Do you get any sense of where you might have been? You say that you said that on a flight to Orlando... do you feel like this happened in America?
Do you get any sense of where you might have been? You say that you said that on a flight to Orlando... do you feel like this happened in America?
Ghost of Gumby
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This is rather amazing Jmvboy but I think I have found the possible plane crash that you remember from your past life. Read this, the co-pilots last name was Emmit and the plane in route to Florida ( crashed near Pittsburg ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USAir_Flight_427
From the article: US Air Flight 427 was a scheduled flight from Chicago's O'Hare International Airport to Pittsburgh, with a final destination of West Palm Beach, Florida. The flight crashed on Thursday, September 8, 1994, killing everyone on board. 45-year-old Captain Peter Germano and 38-year-old First Officer Charles B. "Chuck" Emmett III piloted the aircraft.
Jvmboy "I was going to Florida and this was my first plane ride. I always had a fascination with planes and have wanted to be a pilot. I don't remember much from the trip at all not even saying what my mom said that i said... However i will mention a side from that trip that when my parents got me a flight simulator game for the computer that i was able to land a plane and do perfect takeoff and landings like i had been doing it for years. My parents also told me that when i was around that same age that i referred to myself as "Emit"...
From the article: US Air Flight 427 was a scheduled flight from Chicago's O'Hare International Airport to Pittsburgh, with a final destination of West Palm Beach, Florida. The flight crashed on Thursday, September 8, 1994, killing everyone on board. 45-year-old Captain Peter Germano and 38-year-old First Officer Charles B. "Chuck" Emmett III piloted the aircraft.
Jvmboy "I was going to Florida and this was my first plane ride. I always had a fascination with planes and have wanted to be a pilot. I don't remember much from the trip at all not even saying what my mom said that i said... However i will mention a side from that trip that when my parents got me a flight simulator game for the computer that i was able to land a plane and do perfect takeoff and landings like i had been doing it for years. My parents also told me that when i was around that same age that i referred to myself as "Emit"...
Ghost of Gumby
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If you had said that you were born 7 days prior to the crash then I would say that this was impossible, but if you were indeed born 7 days after this crash, then it is possible that you were the co-pilot on this plane, Charles "Chuck" Emmett III. This seems very close to your account. You say that you were known as Emit. Probably his close friends did call him by his last name, it was common then to be called by your last name. eg: "Hey, Emmett, did you have your diner yet?" Also, the plane crashed in Florida, not in Orlando, but in West Palm Beach, Fl. That is okay, you cannot remember everything, but the fact you recalled this during your flight to Orlando is amazing ( you probably assumed that you were flying into Orlando because this was were you remembered this, it was an associative process going on in your mind, and you were close to the location of the actual incident ) So, I think that it is very possible that you were Charles Emmett III and on that fatal flight into West Palm Beach on the date September 8, 1994. It was a long flight too, it had originated in Chicago, went to Pittsburg, with a final leg to W. Palm Beach. You would have eaten diner on the plane. Also, the fact that you were born 7 days after the plane crash is okay, it can happen. I think in the case of a sudden death like this, the soul may want to resume in bodily form ASAP
Ghost of Gumby
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I seemed to have made a mistake in reading the account, the plane crashed outside Pittsburg, but its destination was Florida. This still does not matter that much, the details still do seem to trace your PL memory of being a pilot on a doomed flight headed to Florida.
Ghost of Gumby
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Here is a pic of the flight control deck of the plane that crashed near Pittsburg. It was a Boeing 737-3B7 a very popular type of plane. Does this look familiar?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boeing_737_cockpit.jpg
Another fact from the flight: USAir, struggling with poor financial and accident records even before Flight 427 crashed Thursday night, now adds to its problems the perception among many travelers that it is no longer safe to fly the airline.
(this shows that the flight would have been around the diner hour, but on such a short flight, you may have eaten at O'Hare Airport in Chicago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Boeing_737_cockpit.jpg
Another fact from the flight: USAir, struggling with poor financial and accident records even before Flight 427 crashed Thursday night, now adds to its problems the perception among many travelers that it is no longer safe to fly the airline.
(this shows that the flight would have been around the diner hour, but on such a short flight, you may have eaten at O'Hare Airport in Chicago)
Welcome to the forum Jmvboy.
There are some accounts where people reincarnate rather quickly. If you look into the work of Ian Stevenson, Jim Tucker, or Brian Weiss.
I would also suggest doing some meditations or journaling spontaneous recall, such as the accounts you noted and not get into researching until you have more experiences.
It isn't that important who you were, but it is important that you get to the root of why you are remembering in the first place.
If you look through the book section you will find a lot of good resources.
There are some accounts where people reincarnate rather quickly. If you look into the work of Ian Stevenson, Jim Tucker, or Brian Weiss.
I would also suggest doing some meditations or journaling spontaneous recall, such as the accounts you noted and not get into researching until you have more experiences.
It isn't that important who you were, but it is important that you get to the root of why you are remembering in the first place.
If you look through the book section you will find a lot of good resources.
I looked at that image for a good 20 minutes but it didn't trigger anything.... Yes also I am very familiar with the 737 it was the first type of plane i landed on the flight simulator successfully. Then again the controls to all the types of planes are similar. But the information about Flight 427 just sounds familiar. i know ive watched the show air emergency quite a lot where it said in that document that that show series did an episode on flight 427. I don't recall ever seeing an episode on that flight... I have had dreams of plane crashes before but nothing that was in or near Pittsburgh or even in the states for that matter i dont think...Ghost of Gumby said:
Sunniva
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Hi Jmvboy!
I'm reading along with interest
. As much as I think validation is exciting we mustn't forget how easy it is to jump to conclusions that may not be right. I don't think it's necessarily wise to jump right to the validation proces when a new memory is surfacing. I *know* it's hard not too - I often have to sit on my hands, but I also know how easy it is to be lead on by the research. When everything is new and the memories of a specific life are few and quite abstract, it's extremely easy to mix up what comes from memory and what comes from research.
Now you are aware that there are coincidences between your memories and this plane crash. I would advice you too not research anymore at the moment and instead focus on trying to remember more yourself (if you want to of course - I assume experiencing a plane crash could be quite traumatic). You may come up with more info, you may come up with something else. Ask your mum about strange things you said as a kid, games you played, drawings you made. These things can give you strong hints towards past lives.
As Deborah suggested, keep a journal! That is the best advice
In 10 years or more you might not be able to remember memories or dreams that you have now.
Oh, and do keep us updated!
I'm reading along with interest
. As much as I think validation is exciting we mustn't forget how easy it is to jump to conclusions that may not be right. I don't think it's necessarily wise to jump right to the validation proces when a new memory is surfacing. I *know* it's hard not too - I often have to sit on my hands, but I also know how easy it is to be lead on by the research. When everything is new and the memories of a specific life are few and quite abstract, it's extremely easy to mix up what comes from memory and what comes from research.Now you are aware that there are coincidences between your memories and this plane crash. I would advice you too not research anymore at the moment and instead focus on trying to remember more yourself (if you want to of course - I assume experiencing a plane crash could be quite traumatic). You may come up with more info, you may come up with something else. Ask your mum about strange things you said as a kid, games you played, drawings you made. These things can give you strong hints towards past lives.
As Deborah suggested, keep a journal! That is the best advice
In 10 years or more you might not be able to remember memories or dreams that you have now.Oh, and do keep us updated!
Ghost of Gumby
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!Jmvboy said:
Jmvboy, I am sensing that you are getting confused about all of this, perhaps it is too much and everything is happening too fast.
The only connection that you have with this flight now is the name Emit which is close the the co-pilots last name of Emmett, and your statement: "information about Flight 427 just sounds familiar." You said "My parents also told me that when i was around that same age that i referred to myself as "Emit"... If you could tell a little more about this please.....how old were you when you called yourself Emit? This is important. If you don't know the exact age could you estimate? Also, just becuase you referred to yourself as Emit reallly does not mean that you were this particular pilot, you state that the flight 427 details seem familiar, and that you do not recall having ever heard about this flight even though you have watched the show "Air Emergency" Another question then: When you called yourself Emit, had you watched "Air Emergency"? Could you have picked up this name from the show?
Ghost of Gumby
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thanks Jmvboy, that clarifies a lot. I think that memories from such an early age, where you are telling your family that you were this other person named Emit, is stong evidence of a past life experience. And the fact that you were not influenced by the TV show is important to know here also, so that what you said to your mom was intuitive knowledge that you had as a 4 year old. I do find this fascinating, but I really don't want to influence you in one direction or the other as far as the flight 427 crash is concerned, I am hoping that you will make those possible connections in due time if they are real.
Ghost of Gumby
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Yes I think that this helps to shed some light. This shows that you were clearly agitated about something, especially if you were hysterical, and this had something to do with emit or emmett. Pointing out the window seems to indicate that whatever it was causing this agitation was removed, "out there" somewhere. Most children when they are agitated to this degree pound on the floor or pull hair, or hit, but the pointing out the window seems to indicate that there is something beyond the present circumstances that was causing this stress. I don't want to lead you here, but flight 427 took a nose dive before crashing. Imagine the panic as the plane nose dived, and the only thing in front of you is the cockpit window with the ground approaching rapidly. It could be a matter of association here, where you associated a window with emmit, as the cockpit window was the last thing he saw before the crash. This is all just speculation. But you do feel that you were a pilot in a plane that crashed, so this is a possibility.
There are many ways you can find out more details, as others have suggested- past-life regressions (self-hypnosis or with a regressionist), a psychic, or researching things to see if anything strikes a chord with you.
Unfortunately, I've never yet been able to be hypnotized, yet really wanted to learn about a possible past life I had a hunch about (but not many specific details). There's a past life psychic who is really, really good (and inexpensive- I've seen certain ones charge $300. Yeesh.) What she said made sense to me. Despite that, she gave me my money back because she felt bad she wasn't able to "see" more (even though I said it was okay). I was honestly impressed.
Later, I asked a friend who had gotten impressive results with his own past lives during self-hypnosis to see if he could "see" mine instead (I purposely didn't tell him what she said, to see if he'd be able to do it). Surprisingly, he came up with similar information.
I don't know what the rules on this site are about posting links directly, but if you PM me I'll give you her website if you ever want to pursue this route.
Unfortunately, I've never yet been able to be hypnotized, yet really wanted to learn about a possible past life I had a hunch about (but not many specific details). There's a past life psychic who is really, really good (and inexpensive- I've seen certain ones charge $300. Yeesh.) What she said made sense to me. Despite that, she gave me my money back because she felt bad she wasn't able to "see" more (even though I said it was okay). I was honestly impressed.
Later, I asked a friend who had gotten impressive results with his own past lives during self-hypnosis to see if he could "see" mine instead (I purposely didn't tell him what she said, to see if he'd be able to do it). Surprisingly, he came up with similar information.
I don't know what the rules on this site are about posting links directly, but if you PM me I'll give you her website if you ever want to pursue this route.
Ghost of Gumby
Hi, Friends : )
I don't think that you should be concerned with this now, you are young and you have lots of time, so don't feel compelled thinking that you need to find the answers right now. The answers to your searching will probably come in time. Perhaps there will be a progression where you remember a little bit here and there, but there is no reason to force this issue in any way. Actually the best PL recall happens when you are completely relaxed and not even thinking about your PL. If some more memories do surface that is fine, but keep in mind that these memories may take years to surface. :thumbsup:Jmvboy said:
Arrant
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I've read through this thread with particular interest -
I hold a pilot's licence (for small, light aircraft, not big commercial or military jets!), and have done so since 1984, when I was 21. But more important are the reasons I learned to fly in the first place.
Ever since the age of 4 or 5, aeroplanes have held a fascination for me. As I grew up, I did the usual thing of building model aeroplanes, but just when my peers were abandoning the hobby to chase girls or discover the dubious delights of pop music, my interest deepened and deepened. I joined the Air Training Corps and, at 18, soloed in a glider; I took up parachuting at 19, took my first flying lesson in a powered aircraft at age 20, and qualified as a pilot aged 21. I subsequently went on to fly vintage aircraft more than modern ones (biplanes and old RAF trainers, and such like), and taught myself aerobatics with the aid of a book. I pulled off a successful crash landing in 1985, and have survived many near misses and scrapes - all of which have led me to believe I have a guardian angel on my shoulder!
I still fly, and my interest in flying and aeroplanes, but particularly in anything to do with the 1939-45 air war, remains as strong as ever. I have even written over twenty magazine articles on things aeronautical. Although I am not aware of any past life memories, I feel to my core that I must've lived as a pilot sometime in the 1940s - I just wish I could prove it to myself somehow, and access those memories...
Adam
I hold a pilot's licence (for small, light aircraft, not big commercial or military jets!), and have done so since 1984, when I was 21. But more important are the reasons I learned to fly in the first place.
Ever since the age of 4 or 5, aeroplanes have held a fascination for me. As I grew up, I did the usual thing of building model aeroplanes, but just when my peers were abandoning the hobby to chase girls or discover the dubious delights of pop music, my interest deepened and deepened. I joined the Air Training Corps and, at 18, soloed in a glider; I took up parachuting at 19, took my first flying lesson in a powered aircraft at age 20, and qualified as a pilot aged 21. I subsequently went on to fly vintage aircraft more than modern ones (biplanes and old RAF trainers, and such like), and taught myself aerobatics with the aid of a book. I pulled off a successful crash landing in 1985, and have survived many near misses and scrapes - all of which have led me to believe I have a guardian angel on my shoulder!
I still fly, and my interest in flying and aeroplanes, but particularly in anything to do with the 1939-45 air war, remains as strong as ever. I have even written over twenty magazine articles on things aeronautical. Although I am not aware of any past life memories, I feel to my core that I must've lived as a pilot sometime in the 1940s - I just wish I could prove it to myself somehow, and access those memories...
Adam
Nightrain
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I have had what I would only call "glimpses" of being shot down in a Spitfire by an ME109 over England. Like you, I was always drawn to such airplanes, but was discouraged from flying by my parents who claimed wrongly that the U.S. Air Force wouldn't accept me because I was too small. Actually, it turned out that the reverse was the case, and I would have been the perfect build for aerobatics. In some perverse way, I suppose that it was for the best, because I would have ended up bombing Vietnamese targets from the air instead of being on the ground where I was able to personally view the effects of our involvement there during the late 60's.Arrant said:
Being an American, though, with Scottish/Canadian roots, I found the story of Hugh W. Reilley to be of extreme interest. He was a Detroiter who used his Scottish/Canadian heritage to join in the Battle of Britain at the cost of his citizenship and his life. Although I have no desire or inclination to lay claim to his life and heroism, I have identified a worthy role-model and a person that I can slightly identify with.
That is, I think, one of the messages that Reincarnation holds for us -- that we are no longer the people that we were during those past lives. Whatever we are able to discover of those lives should be like reading the story of a total stranger who actions are somewhat appealing and familiar to us. The mistakes and achievements of those people are in the past, and belong only to them. Yet they may affect countless souls in the present. The choices that face us in the present are ours, but not ours alone. We can learn from the experiences of others, and we can be influenced by them, in much the same manner that our actions can influence others. Sometimes, I think that the spiritual membrane that separates my soul from that of others is not as well-defined as we would think.
Arrant
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Nightrain,
It is fantastic to find a kindred soul (if it is not too presumptious to call you that?) in such an unexpected quarter - especially as, due to my crassness, we got off to such a bad start! The fact that you know your Spitfires from your Me 109s means we can converse on such matters, if need be, much more easily. Also, I gather from your comments that you are a Vietnam veteran, and I've never spoken with one before. Your personal experience in this lifetime certainly adds weight to your opinions on warfare, something I've never experienced - in this lifetime, anyway.
I've never heard of Hugh Reilly, but I've sometimes watched documentaries and thought, probably stupidly, he or she sounds very much like me, so maybe I'm them reincarnated. Clutching at straws, really. But you knever know! The WW1 fighter ace, Edward "Mick" Mannock was born 24th May - my birthday, albiet many decades removed - at Preston Barracks, in Brighton. Preston Barracks was the location of my old ATC unit, so I've entertained the (doubtless spurious) notion that he and I are the same, especially since, from all accounts, his personality was very much like mine. But he was a WW1 fighter pilot, shot down and killed in 1918, and my affinity is for the 1940s, so I've long since dismissed that idea.
Anyway, I really enjoy reading your posts, which seem to contain a lot of wisdom. Thanks.
Adam.
It is fantastic to find a kindred soul (if it is not too presumptious to call you that?) in such an unexpected quarter - especially as, due to my crassness, we got off to such a bad start! The fact that you know your Spitfires from your Me 109s means we can converse on such matters, if need be, much more easily. Also, I gather from your comments that you are a Vietnam veteran, and I've never spoken with one before. Your personal experience in this lifetime certainly adds weight to your opinions on warfare, something I've never experienced - in this lifetime, anyway.
I've never heard of Hugh Reilly, but I've sometimes watched documentaries and thought, probably stupidly, he or she sounds very much like me, so maybe I'm them reincarnated. Clutching at straws, really. But you knever know! The WW1 fighter ace, Edward "Mick" Mannock was born 24th May - my birthday, albiet many decades removed - at Preston Barracks, in Brighton. Preston Barracks was the location of my old ATC unit, so I've entertained the (doubtless spurious) notion that he and I are the same, especially since, from all accounts, his personality was very much like mine. But he was a WW1 fighter pilot, shot down and killed in 1918, and my affinity is for the 1940s, so I've long since dismissed that idea.
Anyway, I really enjoy reading your posts, which seem to contain a lot of wisdom. Thanks.
Adam.