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Our existence after death

smac2012

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I wanted to say that all of the threads on the forum really made me want to explore human souls and existence after death. For a 3-5years - I have been exploring this area. I have read books including Carol's books, Newton, Wiess, Moody, etc. However - I wanted to seek my own proof of energy that represents the existence of souls. Having said that - me and a few friends have started a metaphycial investigation group. One of them is senstive to energy.

The results are unreal and beyond my wildest expectations. I used to think what we saw on various TV shows may be fake. Not anymore. I am now a 100% believer in our existence after death. I wanted to thank everyone here for posting your thoughts, etc. I would post some of our findings - but i am not sure if that violates this forums rules. :D
 
smac2012 said:
I would post some of our findings - but i am not sure if that violates this forums rules. :D
I, for one, would be most interested in your reports. I would go further to suggest that other members consider forming such groups in their own areas with this purpose in mind. I only wish that there were more people in my area who would be willing to form such a group for the sake of discussion, research, and common support.
 
Mia


I hope this does not get me in trouble - I love this forum and it did play a role in inspiring me to do something real and help form MIA. Anyhow - all of this is real - including the EVPs. I promise -- there is nothing fake here. The dis-embodied voices are the real thing and are what impresses me the most. The energy pics are neat too. Let me know what you think of the EVPs. Those are real spirits you are hearing. Feel free to pass our link to anyhow who may be interested in trying to see if spirit, souls are real :D


http://miainvestigations.blogspot.com/?spref=fb


see: MIA investigates a private residence in Lakefield Ont (clear EVP here)


MIA Investigates a Retail Outlet's Patio (A real clear EVP)


Thxs
 
Our existence after death


I have seen paranormal teams use those EVP devices during their investigations.


They think the device allows spirits to talk to them.


It does seem to do this I agree.
 
As a sidenote here, I have believed for a very long time (at least in this lifetime) that a crucial part of us survives the physical death we all have to go through, for the body is just a carrier for the soul.


With that said, I also believe that certain "after death phenomena" is partly dependent on the energy strength level of the soul after their transition and partly on their desire to have a dialogue with those still living.


For a fictional example, when Uncle Bert finally passed away, he was a bitter old man, riddled with cancer who had NO love for what remained of his family.


In fact the hatred was SO strong between him (the dead) and the living (left behind) that this hatred was made clear when no one, and I mean no one, showed up for his funeral services, and it was a small town at that!


IMHO, there are many reasons for a soul NOT to visit or communicate with the still living, and this is just one of them.


Hopefully this discussion of a "post" life does not violate the guidelines in any way (or at least from what I've read).
 
hydrolad said:
Hopefully this discussion of a "post" life does not violate the guidelines in any way (or at least from what I've read).
The line between what we would consider to be "legitimate" discussions regarding reincarnation and other subjects that might be considered "fringe" is indeed very gray and sometimes indicernible. I personally believe that any academic attempt to provide possible evidence of an afterlife is a step toward supporting reincarnation.


Thus, we often find ourselves discussing such varied topics as Parapsychology, Near Death Experiences, Philosophy, Religion, Physics and even some After-Death Communications. Granted, none of these side topics directly point to the existence of Reincarnation, but they certainly speak of a possible common denominator of Life after Death, which is the very keystone of Reincarnation.


I feel, and hope that the Administrators agree, that this subject -- though vulnerable to mainstream ridicule -- may receive some reasonable consideration by virtue of the fact that most purveyors at least attempt to approach the subject in an investigative manner.
 
I agree


HI Nighttrain - i agree - for reincarnation to occur - the existence of the soul or spirits must exist. Therefore this is my attempt to help prove the human conscinousness is more than our brain. That is - we are more than a bag of bones :) .


All of this content is real and I would not be wasting my time or anyone elses if i could not personally say for 100% that this content is real. I am gonig to continue to explore this field and will eventually break out to investigate and interview people that have NDEs, PI, etc.


The links are above and we post new evidence all of the time like this one:


http://miainvestigations.blogspot.com/2011/05/more-evidence-caught-in-lakefield.html


I will not be posting any more here becuase i do not want to get in trouble with this forum. I will be participating in reincarnation discussions as I am a firm believer in that too. I think it;s all related. :thumbsup:
 
smac2012 said:
I will not be posting any more here because i do not want to get in trouble with this forum. I will be participating in reincarnation discussions as I am a firm believer in that too. I think it;s all related. :thumbsup:
As far as I can tell, you are not in any danger of offending anyone by posting on this subject -- especially since this is being done in the Community Reflections Section. No Administrator or Moderator has mentioned any concern over this issue. In fact, I would personally like to see more interest in this area for the reasons that I mentioned in my last post on the matter.
 
interesting


Thanks Nightrain1!!


Yeah this is really interesting and provides more poof that there is more out there than western science says there is. In the lastest video i posted - you see Jason (BTW -- my bother who is gifted in areas and i posted his experiences before on this forum regarding past lives memories) ask the entity if there are other entities in the room. The question was answered with tredent (or something like that).


My question is why do souls hang around the earth plane - like those we capture on tape - and not move on to the other side and future incarnations?
 
hydrolad said:
As a sidenote here, I have believed for a very long time (at least in this lifetime) that a crucial part of us survives the physical death we all have to go through, for the body is just a carrier for the soul.
I already mentioned the following information in this forum but I guess I can repeat it. It's about the ancient Egyptians' "Division Of The Self". They had more sub divisions than just body, mind, and spirit.


In her book Initiation Elisabeth Haich tells how after she died physically some part of her spirit was still attached to her mummy. She was traveling along with her mummy during her funeral.


This may be why for example when an evil pharaoh came into power they would vandalize the statues of their predecessors. They may have believed that some part of the previous pharaohs could come into their statues. And they were probably correct.


I recommend that book. It's on my short list of all time great books about mystical subjects and it is relevant to reincarnation. That book is related to the mysterious Egyptian initiation rites.


Here's another good one:


Initiation in the Great Pyramid (Astara's Library of Mystical Classics) [Paperback] Earlyne Chaney (Author)


The initiation process was used to cause people to reach very high levels of spiritual evolution. There were different levels of initiation. The subject of initiation comes up in books about philosophy and mystical subjects. Initiation rites were performed not only in Egypt but other places like Mexico.


Apparently Elisabeth Haich and Earlyne Chaney were able to remember their past lives in Egypt in vivid detail as a result of experiencing the initiation rites.


Earlyne said the goddess Isis gave her an important mission to fulfill when she had a vision of her initiation inside the Great Pyramid in the 20th century.


However something went horribly wrong when Earlyne tried to fulfill this mission. I have read some of her other books which I don't necessarily recommend.


Isis and those others are real as the Egyptians correctly believed. Isis is her Greek name. Her name is Aset in Egyptian mythology.


Zeus is also found in the Egyptian religion as is Horus / Apollo.


That crackpot book The Da Vinci Code did say something interesting about Da Vinci. The name 'Mona Lisa' is the backward spelling of two Egyptian gods that represent male and female sexuality.


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I just finished this book which verified what I had heard that the ancient Egyptians identified more than just body, mind, and spirit as making up an individual:


Egyptian Heritage: Based on the Edgar Cayce Readings


That book is actually a more concise summary of Edgar Cayce's statements concerning the origins of the Egyptian civilization:


Edgar Cayce's Egypt: Psychic Revelations on the Most Fascinating Civilization Ever Known


The author, Mark Lehner, was referring to a book by E. A. Wallis Budge about The Egyptian Book Of The Dead which contains their 'Divisions Of The Self' that I am listing below.


Divisions Of The Self


a. Khat - the physical body of man considered as a whole


b. Ab - the heart, the source of life, good and evil, and the conscience.


c. Ka - translated "double". an ethereal alter ego which could leave the body in the tomb and inhabit any statue of the deceased. this life form could also enjoy life with the gods in Heaven.


d. Ba - the heart-soul, which could assume material and non material forms. it enjoyed eternal existence, and could unite with or leave the body at will. it was for the Ka and Ba that food offerings were left in the tomb.


e. Khaibit - associated with the Ba. "the shadow" could also leave the body at will and travel wherever it pleased.


f. Sekhem - "vital force" or "life force" of the individual. it is believed to dwell in heaven with the Khu. it is a term that translators are hard put to define.


g. Khu - the spirit-soul, the immortal part of man which went to heaven as soon as the body died.


h. Sahu - the lasting, incorruptible spirit-body, which incorporated all the ethereal elements of man within it.


i. Ren - the name of a man, believed to dwell in Heaven. the Egyptians were very careful to preserve their names because they believed that one existed only as long as his name was preserved.


According to Budge, "the whole man consisted of a natural body, a Spirit-body, a heart, a double, a Heart-soul, a shadow, a Spirit-soul, and a name. All these were, however, bound together inseparably, and the welfare of any single one of them concerned the welfare of all."
 
Division of the SOUL


I have heard that alot before about parts of souls. Jason - my brother - seen in MIA vids - has been regressed alot and talked about past lives. He actually even found records of past lives he described while under regression.


Anyhow - he talked about bringing only a percentage (70 % for example) of his soul to any given incarnation. That is - only part of his greater self. That is an interesting concept. I think this is one of the reasons why Jason formed MIA and wants to seek more and more evidence.


I really like the evidence we are capturing too. It makes the entire topic of past lives, reincarnation, etc more crediable. If a skeptic says no proof at all - I would like to say - oh yeah - well what or who told us his name was Hav? (one of many voices we caught).
 
smac2012 said:
My question is why do souls hang around the earth plane - like those we capture on tape - and not move on to the other side and future incarnations?
Some souls do not know they are dead or refuse to believe they are dead. Souls may have died in a horrific way, feel they still have more to do, feel guilty about certain actions they have carried out when they were in physical form. I feel its generally only disturbed spirits who stay in the earth plane, although people may disagree with me. Spirits who refuse to leave the earth plane are not forced to move on as the spirit world is timeless, unlike our physical world. Some spirits may be trying to let their loved ones know they are okay, before they eventually move on. The reason why they may appear as they were in physical form, young, old, male, female ect. is because they remain as they were in physical form before they pass over to know their true self.
 
In line with exploring the after life essence has anyone read the works Paul von Ward?


He theorizes certain physical manifestations and has done research on what he calls the science of reincarnation. He refers to the soul as psychoplasm and looks at data regarding biometric similarities across reincarnation reports.


It seems interesting.


I am always trying to get my hands on something I can see and touch - a long held flaw I struggle with in many areas of my life.


Anyways, I had some credit card points so I ordered one of his books to try.
 
Another incarnation


It also seem that people that pass on sometimes hang around and still do what they did while alive. Here is a good example. An old care taker named Chappy had something to say about us setting up equipment in a sound booth on June 3.


http://miainvestigations.blogspot.com/2011/06/mia-investigates-theatre-guild-in.html


This brings up an interesting question. Who helps those who do not move on enter another incarnation? I mean -- if they remain on the earth plane -- like chappy in this example - will they enter another incarnation?
 
I wanted to say that all of the threads on the forum really made me want to explore human souls and existence after death. For a 3-5years - I have been exploring this area. I have read books including Carol's books, Newton, Wiess, Moody, etc. However - I wanted to seek my own proof of energy that represents the existence of souls. Having said that - me and a few friends have started a metaphycial investigation group. One of them is senstive to energy.

The results are unreal and beyond my wildest expectations. I used to think what we saw on various TV shows may be fake. Not anymore. I am now a 100% believer in our existence after death. I wanted to thank everyone here for posting your thoughts, etc. I would post some of our findings - but i am not sure if that violates this forums rules. :D

Smacw012, Well I can only speak for myself but after having had a NDE many years ago and since then I have had a few OBE's I can say that we will continue to exist after death pretty much the same as we did in life except now the soul will live on a higher dimensional plane (usually the 4th dimension) where the laws of laws of physics operate much differentially then they do in our 3rd dimensional plane. We all visit these other dimensions when we sleep at night as it is natural for the soul to leave the body briefly during sleep. Most of us then usually operate on the 4th dimension which on the surface looks like our world but where astral matter is more fluid and moldable by thought and feeling. So ones reality there tends to change very quickly depending upon ones state of mind and emotional temperament. The need to eat, make money, and protect the body from the elements all does away as these are earth plane concerns which have now fallen away. One can now travel the cosmos simply by thought and the wise to be there.

The soul is then free to pursue more inner quality's of the self in terms of art, science, music, travel, and knowledge of the cosmos to name a few. This all depends upon the souls willingness to learn, evolve and grow. Some do and some don't. It's all very individual as we all have free will even on the other side. However the astral world is only the first of many other dimensions where the soul continues to exist between incarnations on the physical plane.

Love and peace.

P.
 
I am not a religious person albeit a pantheist. Nor, do I believe any religion has a monopoly on spirituality. Our lives as we know it may end with our death, but there is a posthumous consciousness by which means our life forces never die; these are passed on in the memories of loved ones ... even by complete strangers with whom we may have struck upon inspiring conversation on a bus, a train, or even in a pub ... or, of course, a hospital. Life is a continuum and does not come to a full stop when we die.
 
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