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Need help - regarding plantation slaves...

Midnight.Sapphires

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Does anyone know if the old plantation slaves used to sing songs about a train taking them to heaven? I have a vague memory of such a thing (might be past-life related) but I'm not sure where the songs and/or stories originated.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks!

Jere
 
Re: Need help - regarding plantation slaves...

Originally posted by jere
Does anyone know if the old plantation slaves used to sing songs about a train taking them to heaven? I have a vague memory of such a thing (might be past-life related) but I'm not sure where the songs and/or stories originated.

It's hard to say if the memories are real or not... in school we were taught about slaves, freedom trains, and their spiritual singing. It's very likely they sang a song about a train taking them to heaven. Plus, there's been many educational programs on TV about the subject.

That doesn't mean your memories are false though. You very well could have been a slave... maybe flipping through the channels and catching something on one of those shows brought back memories. It could be that you even ran into someone who you knew in that past life and it brought back memories.
 
A suggestion

When I was in Georgia in April, I came across a book in a book store, that was filled with old slaves songs -in fact that was ALL that was in the book.. It might be possible for you to dig it up with an Internet search and see.

I have an Old Slave song in my head too -about "going down to the Mojo, cause somebody here done died......" I couldn't find my song when I thumbed through the book. Perhaps you'll have more luck?
 
Hi Deborah and QA Hearts...

Thanks for your replies.

Deborah...do you have the title to the book you were referring to? I made a search through the internet (took a couple of hours) looking for old plantation slave songs and stories but didn't have much luck.

Cheers!

Jere
 
Nope -sorry

It had a black and white cover! With a 19th century drawing on it.
I know what it looks like! (The artist in me.) I almost bought it -but chose not to drag it back to California with me. Bummer.

Try the term "Old Negro Songs" in your search. I think Negro was the term used.
 
links

Perhaps this might help:

http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/sheetmusic/

http://www.negrospirituals.com

What about this one:

Ev’ry time I feel de spirit movin’ i my heart, I will pray
Ev’ry time I feel de spirit, movin’ in my heart, I will pray
Upon de mountain my Lord spoke
Out o’ his mouth came fire and smoke
In the valley, on my knees
Ask my Lord mercy please

Jerd’n River chilly an’ col’
Chilla de body but not de soul
All around me look so shine
Ask my Lord if all was mine

Ain’t but one train runs dis track
It runs to Heaven an’ runs right back
Saint Peter waitin’ at de gate
Says, “Come on sinner, don’t be late”.


And there's a song called: That's my train fare home,
but I can't find the lyrics anywhere.

Curious Girl.
 
Hello everyone...

Thank you very much for all of your help in this matter. ;-)

I apologize...I guess I should explain why I'm asking about old plantation slave songs/stories...

I had a very brief life as a young woman named Lydia, who lived in Louisiana from around 1910 until her death at around 1938 or 1939.. She was 1/8th black, her grandmother having been a slave, I think in Mississippi. I posted something in the dream topics of this forum and from what I know the dream may have had a possible past-life connection.

Katrien gave me an excellent interpretation, of which I am posting in part:

"...But ...now the dream has changed, now you dont know how to get on the train ,cant read the signs properly[ive had a similar dream] cant board the train etc, in real life it could be read as though you dont know were your going in life.The part where you cant find your name on the board is really interesting ,like you dont have any idea who you are now.
So you head for the turn-stiles anyway and try to pass through,meaning you try to pass through life without knowing ,without finding your place,your indentity in the world and even more interesting is that you thought because you have 'been here' so many times and because the conductor [who conducts all of life and fate?}has brought you here before you wouldnt need too go through this again,very PL related.
Dreams so much like life speak in metaphors.
As for the 30's/40's I would go look at some clothing from this period and see how it matches up to your dream.Perhaps you had similar feelings in a PL set in this period.I once had a dream were i was in 30's/40's clothing ,Hat and all - but the dream was set in modern day.

I was just wondering if there was some connection with the train and my past life as the grand-daughter of a slave. I'm thinking that she (I) must have grown up hearing of "soul trains" in the old songs and/or stories of her ancestors.

I'm sorry if I'm confusing everyone...I don't know how else to put this in words (that's why it took me a while to respond...sorry!

Cheers!

Jere
 
interesting threat, i am from germany originally but was always attracted to the american south of that time. the book you were looking for may have been this one? :

Code Words used in "slave songs" and their definitions:
*********************************************

Baggage - escaping slave

Conductor - coordinator, plotting escape course

Drinking Gourd - the Big Dipper which includes the North Star

Forwarding - taking refugee slaves from station to station

Freedom train - the Underground Railroad

Heaven or promised land - Canada, the northern states

Load of potatoes - escaping slaves hidden under the farm supplies

Preachers - leaders

Shepherds - people who escorted slaves

Stockholder - supporters of the Underground Railroad


good luck to all.
 
Jere do you have the Discovery channel at your place? I recently saw a little of this program hosted by James Woods about (I think) the lives of slaves and what took place during slavery. Thought let you know, in case you wanted to look out for it. At the Discovery channel website they probably list the air times of that program, but don't know what the program was called, but you should be able to find it knowing it was hosted by James Woods and was on slavery.

I didn't watch much, so don't know if they mention songs, but thought u might still want to watch it for any additional help.
 
Hi everyone!

I've checked out the sites suggested and it's been a great help. Thank you very much.

Frosty...I remember seeing that special documentary being advertised on the Discovery Channel (was it earlier this year or sometime last year, I can't remember...?) Unfortunately, I didn't have a chance to see it (I was probably at work...I worked the graveyard shift at that time). I am now living in the UK and we have the Discovery Channel here but I haven't seen any notices of that special being shown here, unfortunately. Hopefully, one day, it will be shown here...I'll keep my eyes and ears open. But thanks for the suggestion. I really appreciate it!

Cheers! ;)

Jere
 
Hi...

LOL! No, you're not nosy...not at all! :D

Curious girl...no, I haven't found the song, sorry. Sometimes, when you're searching for an answer to something in your past, it takes a while but when you least expect it, the answer comes to you. This is how it's been with me when I've searched for answers to my past lives...so, I'll just sit on this. I'm sure when the time is right, I'll remember what song it was that my grandmother (in that lifetime) used to hum and sing to herself.

Cheers!

Jere
 
I found these lryics


Win my train fare home


If I ever get lucky mama


Win my train fare home


If I get lucky babe


Win my train fare home


I'm goin' back to the border


Where I'm better known


Oh your calf is hungry mama


Hey baby I believe he needs to suck


Oh your calf is hungry baby


Mama I believe he needs a suck


Oh your milk is turning blue


I believe he's outta luck


Hey yeah, yeah


You know you got me crawlin and the grass grows very high


I'm just gonna keep on crawlin now baby until the day I die


Crawl into your window,


Crawl into your door


Crawl anyway you want now


Baby I'm gonna crawl across your floor


Yallah Yallah oh Yallah


Well that's all right mama


Baby that's all right for you


Oh that's all right baby


Oh mama that's all right for you


To be low down dirty any old way you do


Oh well oh well


You know you got me crawlin now babe and the grass grows very high


I'm just gonna keep on crawlin now baby until the day I die


Gonna craw into your window,


Gonna crawl into your door


Gonna crawl anyway you want now


Baby I'm gonna crawl across your floor, crawl across your floor
 
Hi Raptor! Interesting lyrics!


Do you know from which period they are? Anything about their origin? I'm curious! :)
 
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