John Tat said:
The reality is those who believe in a genderless spiritual pure self/soul are an extreme minority who's beliefs require them to have radical views on the afterlife and reincarnation
So yes, my source is correct when he says this relatively handful of people who believe in a genderless spiritual pure self/soul are wrong
This comment was a bit like dropping a mentos into soda, IMO.
We all know our own experiences. You know yours. I know mine. When you tell me what I have experienced, it feels very much like an imposition on my personal, internal space even when I say to myself, "Ah, John seems very certain about this. It's obviously not worth debating."
When you tell me your source is right and mine is wrong, I wonder how you can be so certain. They are both equally intangible and unprovable to anyone beyond ourselves. We are both within physical bodies and soaked through with beliefs and life experiences that could quite easily cloud our perceptions and reception.
We really don't even know if there are multiple cultures on the other side of the veil. Maybe in your group everyone sticks with the same gender. Maybe mine doesn't. I will let that remain an open question, because it doesn't need an answer here. I will know soon enough.
I cannot see myself as wiser or greater than anyone else in this life, and I don't believe anyone else is so much wiser and greater than I am as to give up control and definition of my own perceptions and experience to their interpretations.
I don't know why you have such a different understanding, or why you're so certain you can possibly know the answer for everyone else when even in this small, tangible world we cannot speak for others' experiences.
I know what I think of people in authority who attempt to proclaim they can define the limits of my personal experience of life because of their scientific or religious studies,... even those who are very educated and therefore certain of being right.
I simply think, "Well, apparently they haven't studied me yet."
I think those on the other side, even the ones we trust, may be equally capable of having studied a great many things without knowing everything. Maybe there are groups that study gender by different approaches. One by choosing variety, and another by submerging themselves completely in the experience of only one side of the equation and then discussing the differences with those of the other gender upon their return.
My conclusion is that you must have a very different "beyond the veil" experience than I do, and a very different series of life experiences, too. That's very interesting to me. It's fascinating to hear your perspective and to think through the implications of your conclusions.
I wonder how your gender plays into this perspective, and what deeper life meaning you have gained from it.
Why does it seem to frustrate you so much to see so many of us describe gender experiences that are quite different from yours? I really want to know. Does it change anything about this life?
I am a woman. It's quite fun, even when there are complications. Sometimes I observe the differences in expectations and think I would have very different problems if I were a man, but that is life. Everything we experience has its own benefits and complications. I don't need to be a man or even want to be a man in this life.
For some gender is more of a problem, and maybe the solution has more to do with changing culture than with being a different gender, but we really can't understand anyone from outside their experience. We can only do our best to respect that others know what they see and feel and believe better than we do.
This doesn't seem difficult to me. Male or female, every experience in life is unique even when there are a great many patterns and similarities.