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Lives in West African kingdoms, anyone?

Spocket

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Are there any other members here who have lived in the West African kingdoms of Ghana, Mali, and Songhay?

Ever since I learned about them in school when I was 13, I've been absolutely fascinated by them. Plus, I love African art and music. So it was no surprise when I learned that I have lived in the Ghana empire.

A while back, while watching a sunset, all of a sudden, I relived a scene in the African savanna, where I was a woman about the same age as I am now (23), cuddling with a younger boy (he looked about 16 or 17) on some kind of woven blanket, watching a sunset just like the one my present self was seeing. I don't really remember much else about that life, except that my husband divorced me for being unable to have babies (later research has shown that such a thing was not only perfectly legal, but commonly done) and then I went to live with a friend and helped her raise her kids. I know it was in the Ghana empire, though, and that it was taken over by the Mali kingdom while I was alive (so I lived in the early 13th century, by the Western calendar).

I wish I could find a book on everyday life in that culture; everything I can find focuses on the military history or the mythology. I've never really cared much about either when learning about a country; I want to know how the people lived. I have the book The Royal Kingdoms of Ghana, Mali, and Songhay, which tells me only a little bit of what I want to know, and a children's picture book called African Beginnings, which has a bunch of hazy pictures that seem to have been done by an artist who can't draw people very well--and only a couple of pictures of scenes from Ghana. Can anyone recommend a book on everyday life in the West African kingdoms?
 
Hello Spocket,


Unfortunately I don't have such memories or even a book to recommend, but I just wanted to say that I found your memories and feelings fascinating, and I hope you keep us posted when you learn something new.


It's always resfreshing to hear about non-Western PL's! :thumbsup:


Karoliina
 
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Unfortunately I don't have any memories from there. There aren't many posts on past lives outside the US and Europe, so I really hope you'll update us if you find out more. Perhaps it could help triggering other people's memories of this period and area :)
 
Hi,


I don't have memories either of a life in West Africa, or a book to recommend.


But...I want to share some information I have from another source, about life in Ghana in the 20th century.


My cousin was married to a Ghanese man (they are divorced now). He came here in the eighties as a political refugee.


In his youth (1960's) they still lived a kinda tribal life in Ghana.


I will tell you some things I remember from his stories about 'home'.


He had a horizontal scar on his left cheek. He said that was the sign of his tribe. I don't know exactly when the scar was given, probably when he became a man. He told me every tribe had a different mark. He himself belonged to the Ashanti.


Family relations are rather complicated (in my view). For example, they call all their cousins 'brothers and sisters', so it was never easy for me to understand who he was talking about when he said 'my brother'.


He was catholic. I don't know in what century the country was christianed, so I don't know if this information is relevant for you. At birth, he was given an Ashanti name, and also a 'christian' name. He said mostly the christian names were related to the day of their birth. (His name is Dominic - should be a reference to Sunday). Oh, and although he is catholic, he wanted to have his son circumsized - they do it for hygienic reasons he said.


When he was a teenager, he went hunting with bow and arrow and with knives. They ate all kinds of small mammals, but their preferences went to the large deer (I don't know if I should call them deer, but I hope you understand what kind of animals I am talking about).


He also once said that nothing was spilled. As an example, he used the palm tree. First, the resin or so was tapped and used to make palm wine. When they cut a palm tree, the leaves were used for roofs etc, the wood was used, and when everything that was instantly useful was removed, and the rest of the tree lay rotting in the forest, after a while they came back, and gathered the fungi that grew on the rotting wood, for food, and also apparently some kind of insect laid eggs in what was left of the tree, and when the maggots came out, they were collected to eat. He said some people ate them raw, but he himself prefered them baked with peppers. He said they tasted like mussels.


I think the main food source for the people in Ghana is the yam-root.


His family owned a piece of land where cocoatrees grew. That made them rather wealthy. It was not without danger to collect the fruits, because little light green snakes have the cocoatrees as their home. They are small, but deadly poisonous. In fact, that is how his sister died. She was at work there, and got a snakebite, and since the 'plantation' was about an hour walking from their home, she didn't make it. When she didn't come home in the evening, the family went looking for her and found her dead on the path.


Well, I hope some of this information is of use for you. I will think about what more he told me about life in West Africa and post it soon if you like.


Eevee
 
Actually, Eevee, the Ghana empire and the modern country of Ghana aren't the same country at all; they don't even share any territory in common--that is, no part of the modern-day country of Ghana was part of the Ghana empire.


But thank you anyway.
 
Sunniva said:
There aren't many posts on past lives outside the US and Europe
Why is that? I've had lives all over the world. Yes, I've lived in ancient Greece, ancient Rome, and England, but I've also lived in Japan, Persia (back in the 11th century, when it was still Persia), India, the Mayan Empire, a few places in Africa, and Sumer.
 
I don't know why that is. We have had a lot of posts of lives in Roman times or in Ancient Greece and Egypt. Maybe it's easier to research to memories, because these eras are so well-documented?
 
Hi


thanks for reminding me :) - I can't recall any specific life as an african - though like you I read many books on african culture when i was young - most of these books are now in the attick of my mum in Innsbruck - and at the moment i am here in UK - I was specially fascinated by the Nuba and Lenie Riefenstahl's book on them - and on our austrian carneval i loved to paint my face.


a good source of information is always Wikipedia.


best wishes Clivia
 
Spocket said:
....I wish I could find a book on everyday life in that culture; everything I can find focuses on the military history or the mythology. I've never really cared much about either when learning about a country; I want to know how the people lived. I have the book The Royal Kingdoms of Ghana, Mali, and Songhay, which tells me only a little bit of what I want to know, and a children's picture book called African Beginnings, which has a bunch of hazy pictures that seem to have been done by an artist who can't draw people very well--and only a couple of pictures of scenes from Ghana. Can anyone recommend a book on everyday life in the West African kingdoms?
It's going to be difficult to find the people's stories in western books. You will find military and 'royal' histories, but not the history of the everyday people, Unless you find an anthropologist who went and wrote down remembered history and stories from their descendants.


Google is my friend. :D


http://www.ijebu.org/songhay/


http://www.darke.k12.oh.us/curriculum/socialstudies/earlyafricankingdoms.pdf


http://webusers.xula.edu/jrotondo/Kingdoms/Songhay/SongHistNarr.html


http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/4chapter4.shtml


there's more. :)
 
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