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Kristopher

Kristopher

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you passed over to the spirit world, everything was great, just what you expected. You get reunited with loved ones and everything, but you find out there is no reincarnation?

I would be rather gutted. I think the idea of starting a new journey, meeting new people, facing new challenges and everything else is a rather exciting bunch of events that I look forward to facing again and again, in each new life.

Sure, we all want to go home eventually (spirit world) but everyone wants to go on a holiday again every once in a while. :D
 
I agree. Not that I wouldn't love to be reunited with loved ones, but having the chance to go new places, try new things, be a different person.......


If that was taken away, I'd be pretty shell shocked and probably wouldn't know what to do for a while. I'd feel pretty stuck. I might get over it, but considering the fact that I am in no way shape or form a "home body", it'd definitely make my spine curl after a while.
 
I be bummed out - honestly


Question: You passed over to the spirit world, everything was great, just what you expected. You get reunited with loved ones and everything, but you find out there is no reincarnation?


I would be bummed out - honestly!


Having been born with memories of a previous life as a stone mason and now recognizing that reincarnation is a very real phenomenon I would be really disappointed if my pass for a next life was revoked because the experiment was over.


Already I'm thinking about what I want to do in my next life and where I want to live!


This whole concept of reincarnation is great. One life in France. Another in England. Some time in Canada and the United States. I mean what is there not to LOVE about reincarnation!


So if I were to discover my free wheeling travel days of reincarnation were over I would definitely be bummed out.


This must mean I am a young spirit and still eager to travel the world for new cultural experiences where ever they might be.


Just my opinion for what its worth.


Arnold Vinette
 
A very provocative question Kristopher. I think based on my study of the spirit world ( reports of eyewitness who have encoutered spirits, and my own experiences ) the spirits appear to be somewhat isolated, not with family and friends. They tend to stay around familiar places and they tend to have turmoil which keeps them from moving on towards the next incarnation. This makes me believe that we are given the choice, or an alternative to remain as spirit or to go on. I don't think that we are able to remain indefinitly as a spirit representation of our previous life, there must be some point where we are "nudged" forward, back to rebirth. Perhaps someday there will be a completion, where we all are delivered from this cycle, perfected and given a place in eternal sanctum. I do believe with all the case studies of reincarnation that it exists. I would be very shocked indeed if I were to find that it didn't.
 
From the viewpoint of someone who is not entirely convinced of past lives, nor is emotionally connected in any way with past life memories—I have to say that I would certainly find myself feeling as though the truth was being kept from me. If I were to find myself on the other side with no reference to past lives at all, then I would feel as though a conspiracy of silence existed to keep me from knowing what I am certain to be true. Perhaps I have done something wrong, and I am being purposely isolated from the knowledge? I would not feel complete. And no matter how happy the circumstance of my afterlife—no pain, wonderful and caring friends and ancestors, or even 20 virgins :-D —I just wouldn't feel complete.


I am, like many here, a person who was a thoroughly indoctrinated Christian whose only knowledge of Reincarnation was once nothing more than the butt of jokes. I was raised to be a skeptic of firm materialist beliefs, and I never had dreams or visions that seemed out of sync with those beliefs. Yet, I can honestly say that those years seemed incomplete. I somehow knew that something was missing; and I now know that life without Reincarnation is utterly incomplete and without reason. So, the scenario of passing into the next world without verification of continuous lifetimes would be as if I were to enter a world of practical jokes and illusion, or a world more incomplete and more confusing than the one I had left.
 
I think I would enjoy it as much as I would enjoy it if I was told "You can hang out here until you decide you want to go for another run." The proving or disproving of reincarnation is not a make-or-break for me. But I would take advantage of this state of perfection to learn what it is we are remembering (or imagining so vividly). After all, a Heaven where I cannot ask questions and find answers (or at least hunt for them) is no Heaven for me!
 
Well, if such a thing could happen, I think I would be disappointed & sad. I think each time I have reincarnated, I have asked myself 'so, how am I going to do a better job this time?', and then going through the complicated process of doing just that.


But I must say, I think the 'other side' is a satisfying place to be as well.
 
Kristopher said:
you passed over to the spirit world, everything was great, just what you expected. You get reunited with loved ones and everything, but you find out there is no reincarnation?
I would be rather gutted. I think the idea of starting a new journey, meeting new people, facing new challenges and everything else is a rather exciting bunch of events that I look forward to facing again and again, in each new life.


Sure, we all want to go home eventually (spirit world) but everyone wants to go on a holiday again every once in a while. :D
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I would be a little disappointed.. Although being reunited with each and every loved ones would be the best thing ever.. But.. It'll be really sad. I won't see the Earth again.


But I would just continue on and start a Q & A with God. And maybe ask 'Where to next..? Heaven or hell for me?'
 
Ignotus said:
But I would just continue on and start a Q & A with God. And maybe ask 'Where to next..? Heaven or hell for me?'
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IMO, hell is not a place we are sent to for ever lasting punishment. In fact, I believe that 'hell' as we know it is just a very powerful tool used by religions to hook people in.


I think we may put ourselves in our own personal hell if we feel terrible about acts we have commited during our incarnation (no devils with red hot pokers), but we'll always return to the light in our own time.
 
I know that. Our own personal hell sounds like a much better explanation than the hell religions have explained.


By the question, I'm really asking God is 'Where to next, if there's no Reincarnation..?'
 
Well, sometimes I find myself thinking that I want this life to be the last life I lead here on Planet Earth. Although I am a happy and healthy person, a little part of my spirit sometimes feels so very tired and old. I have actually prayed that this be my last incarnation here on old earth. I am so very tired of the stupidity and hatred that we humans generate! I do believe that we are born into this world to learn and to love. It is a costly lesson. I have shared some of my past life memories elsewhere on this forum but I also feel that I have lived many lives here. Just fragments and sensations come to me from time to time. Creation is so full of possibility that I really do not think there is any point worrying about NOT being able to reincarnate again... ;)
 
Ignotus said:
By the question, I'm really asking God is 'Where to next, if there's no Reincarnation..?'
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It's a hard questions for any of us to answer. If indeed we eventually do stop reincarnating I wonder, like you, what happens then. Maybe we become guides to others still learning, and help them through each life. But its also possible that we have already been guides before. Maybe sometimes we're not here to learn anything, we might just want to incarnate for another experience, or to help others out, but not for the purpose of ourselves.
 
Gerania said:
I have actually prayed that this be my last incarnation here on old earth
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During my short time of being a member of this forum I have seen a few people express the same feelings as you. From what studies I have came across, earth is a really hard place to be. I'm sure many of us here have been victims of horrible events during our past lives. Maybe we shed the negative emotions we have towards earth shortly after crossing over in to the light, once our energy has been healed/restored.
 
I don't think earthly incarnations are that rough. There's as much potential for harm as there is for good. In my opinon, we feel like there's more harm because we get told about it so much more often. Mass media exposure shows us images of murder and mayhem every night and day with the occassional specialized "good news" story about a sports team pulling off a stunning victory. Less often than once a month, it seems, do we hear stories about two nations signing a trade agreement that benefits the citizens of both countries, or of long-lost family members reunited in chance meetings, or of any other good news. Such things are laughed away as "warm fuzzies" and "trite". Now, let's get back to the beheaded infant found in the dumpster. (Come on, admit it. You found the dead baby more interesting, didn't you? ;) )


I've been accused of being too much of an optimist, but a teacher challenged me, in my teen years, not to stop looking at the negative (rose-colored glasses being just as bad as darkened shades of gloom), but to look at the positive as well, even the small positives. Yeah, that jerk cut me off on the highway, but hey, this guy just fell back so I could merge rather than push like crazy to get ahead of me. I began to apply the personal level observations to the wider world and discovered that it's not such a bad place after all. (Thank you, Mr. MacNeil!)


(A cop friend of mine loves to point out the number of "gun-owner mistakenly shoots family member" stories that make the news. Such events are incredibly rare when stacked up against the "gun-owner successfully defends friends and family" stories that actually happen. But as very few news agencies will report on the latter, we are led to believe that the former is the more likely scenario. Why? It's much more lurid.)
 
How would I react? Well, first of all, I'd genuinely be surprised. I'd be relieved on one hand that I wouldn't have to return. I'm with Gerania on this point ... the Earth is currently being run by a lot of stupid people and I'm disgusted by how much evil is out there. My life has been very difficult and, it seems to me, very unfair ... but there's the rub! If reincarnation doesn't exist, I'd feel a lot of people weren't given a fair chance to shine, or grow, or learn ... let's just say I'd have a lot of questions for God or whoever runs things on the other side! q6gif
 
Personally - it wouldnt make any sense to me??


although i dont currently have any recollections of any past lives - I have also not attempted or tried to recall any -


the "afterlife" doesnt make much sense to me if reincarnation isnt true? i would then have questions as to how it all works etc etc


perhaps -at that level - we may or may not be aware of reincarnation - maybe we need to Grow to a certain level to understand/accept it - I dont know -


interesting question - almost like questioning our "new found" "beliefs"


from a buddhist POV we are not supposed to have beliefs - just accept reality as it is - if THIS DID HAPPEN - i guess i would have to accept it as reality.... and continue learning!!
 
I would be bummed but would be delirously happy to be spending time with my father and other loved ones again. I am sure I could find much to keep me busy.


Besides, you don't get fat from ice cream in Heaven ;)
 
I'd be happy. I look at it this way: most of us who post here are probably in the upper what - 1%, 5%? - of the population as far as standard of living goes. I figure the odds are pretty good that I will reincarnate into a life much worse off than the one I live now. Besides, the thought of being a child again, going through adolescense and the teen years depresses me beyond belief. I guess I'm unusual in that I really didn't enjoy my childhood. I'd be thrilled to put all that behind me and live forever in spiritual bliss with my loved ones.
 
momof3 said:
most of us who post here are probably in the upper what - 1%, 5%? - of the population as far as standard of living goes.
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Although you are quite correct that most of us here are within the top percentages of the world population where standard of living is concerned, I would advance the proposition that standard of living is not an accurate measurement of happiness or spiritual development. If anything, I would dare say that there is far more spiritual maturity to be found in the poorest of families than in the most privileged.
 
For me this brings up two issues:


1. If there is no reincarnation, what were all those intense memories of places I've never been and people I've never seen? So long as I eventually obtain understanding of what those things were, I believe I will be satisfied...after all, I got pulled into this belief structure in order to answer questions about these "memories".


2. The brief glimpses I've had of the "other side" have left me reeling with an almost "vertigo" effect in its sense of infiniti, timelessness, eternity, and feeling of absolute love. There have also been vignettes of "working" in various places and doing various things that seem to hold a great level of satisfaction and provide tremendous service to other "beings"...again the love permeates everything and all of it seemed to be filled with a sense of fulfillment unlike anything I can remember while incarnate.


So, if there is no reincarnation I am prepared for whatever my next "occupation" is going to be...I believe it only gets better from here, whether I am here again or not.
 
Although you are quite correct that most of us here are within the top percentages of the world population where standard of living is concerned, I would advance the proposition that standard of living is not an accurate measurement of happiness or spiritual development. If anything, I would dare say that there is far more spiritual maturity to be found in the poorest of families than in the most privileged.
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I’m in agreement with momof3 in many ways. Chances at other lives sound intriguing until I realize the odds that I’d get one as ‘good’ as this one are unlikely. I certainly agree that poverty brings many opportunities for spiritual lessons (I’m always astonished by those who think that ‘famous’ lives are the only lives that could possibly be of any value or interest, I swear I think I accumulated more karma of one sort or another by the time I was five than most advantaged people do in their lives), but after having been very poor in my childhood it’s nothing I would want to go through again. I remember being hungry all the time, being cold all the time, being scantily dressed in the minus forty weather, no money for medical attention let alone vet bills, scrounging wood for winter, my mother’s constant worrying...just on and on. Not to mention that childhood seemed to last forever. It was a relief to become an adult, and as time has gone on, I’m not poor anymore. But I never want to go through the things I did ever again.


I’m not sure about the whole ‘spend eternity with loved ones’ premise though. The ones I’ve loved are spread over a scan of years and for the most part, never even met each other. Do the ones who never met or who disliked each other have to spend eternity together based on nothing more than that I loved them? What about those who loved me but whom I disliked or weren’t even aware of? And vice versa? And the people I love had others they loved whom I’ve never met. And what about my in-laws? Am I stuck with them for eternity, too? Is there a line and where is it drawn? I haven’t truly loved that many people, isn’t it going to get boring with only my husband and a couple family members? I donno, it’s difficult to wrap my brain around how that would work in a way that would be fun for ever.
 
I'm still torn about totally believing in reincarnation but I do talk like it does exist, because deep down I think I do believe in it but yet get confused when I waiver in my belief. Maybe because I haven't had any good evidence of having had a past life, but just some coincidental type events and unexplained affinities for certain people, places, etc.


But some part of me wants to believe in it so of course if knowledge came to me that it did not exist I think I'd be really disappointed, and then would wonder how do we explain so many happenings that point to it existing. So then anger maybe because I'd think we were tricked?
 
I do believe in reincarnation without a doubt. I've had enough confirmations that I have been here before, and many confirmations that we DO continue to exist after exiting these bodies. But, at this point in time I would be very much ok with not coming back again. But thats what I say right now. However, I wouldn't be surprised if, after I've been "home" for a while, I'll be ready to come back and give reincarnation another go.
 
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