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Hello everybody ! Introducing me and my memories of past lives

Jada

Jada

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Hi guys!

My name is Jada and I'm italian.
I'm glad to have found this forum. I can speak to others who believe in past lives. Maybe find answers or suggestions...

These are my memories. I have 2 for sure.
It began when I had my first baby and I was breastfeeding. My sleep changed and I had moments where I wasn't really sleeping nor I was awake... Like a limbo.

The first one I had, it was during a recorded regression from one of Brian Weiss book. I just saw myself from my feet. I wore very nice shoes from that time. I'm sure it was like Florence reinassance (1300..?) .. I saw my dress, so refined with the finest material and golden embroidery.. I was a girl probably 14/16 years old. Then I noticed I had a belt with some big heavy keys hanging on.
This is so strange because I have a huge collection of keys that I usually find wherever I go... Street, parking lot, fields , everywhere!
But still I have no idea of what a little girl with keys on her belt could do ..
My second one was more significant because I saw something i could never knew. It was something like a funeral ceremony of Native Americans. I saw a lot of details like hair and things on their hair... They were buring a corpse in a big big amount of dry leaves. The corpse was somehow tied with ropes on a wooden board.
I don't know anything about natives. Could this be possible? Does anyone have any knowledge about? Suggestions?

I want to thank everyone who will read and reply!
 
Welcome to our group. :) The native American information is correct. I have heard of them doing things like cremation. Maybe not all of the tribes, but at least some did. About the Italian life as a girl, the thing that came to mind was you were in a convent. In those days people didn't live as long and had to grow up fast. So 16 years old then would be like a 25 year old today. No master keys like today. Each door had it's own key.
 
Hi Jada, welcome to the group! Interesting that you mention that these came up with that particular sleep pattern, I've heard other people mention similar experiences. I hope you can find some more of your details, while I'm not familiar with either of those eras I'd probably suggest that you start to get involved. Getting suggestions from others is a good idea, but you never know what you might find starting in on your own research. Treat it like a research project and see what you can find based on your leads!


Good luck with your search! And thanks for sharing, I look forward to reading what you come up with. Plenty of folks around here have a lot of experience with this sort of thing and are happy to help. If you have any other questions or need some assistance with something, feel free to ask.
 
Hello Jada,


The golden embroidery you saw probably rules out you living in a convent. Although, rich women were sent to live in convents, there was a dress code, and such finery would most likely not be visible, if it was allowed at all.


It is more probable that you were the lady of the house. The highest ranking woman would, in fact, wear keys on her belt just like you described; heavy, large, a bit different than modern keys, and hanging down off of the belt. Sometimes, this role would be given to a housekeeper, but most often it was the wife of a higher-ranking person (someone who could afford keys, for instance) who wore them.


The keys would open a pantry. You would control the use of the flour, for instance, portioning it out, and making sure no one was stealing from you. Also, there would be a chest or two, with the valuables in it. In a larger, more grand house, you probably would not have keys to the doors and gates. Those would be in the hands of a man.


Lastly, it was not unusual for females to be married at 14-16. If you could physically bear children, you were a woman. You might have been viewed as young, but you were not considered by society to be a child anymore.


The Native American snippet you mentioned sounds consistent as well. The hair; style, grooming ritual, decoration, was and is very important.
 
I want to thank you guys for your response. You have no idea how important they are to me. Without your answers I would have never understand my visions on past lives. Specially the little girl one.


One thing I omitted was that i saw a floor ( no wall, no room just a floor) and the floor was actually made of rough stone.. Looked like a really poor ambient to live. And the idea of a convent is just so logic ! I think this is absolutely correct! Thank you guys. I've never thought about that. About natives I made research but never got anything consistent... I remember clearly they had like little bluish beads on their hair mounted on headgears...


Wow I'm


Speechless and your answer really made the difference


Thank you a lot!
 
Do you think you might have been royalty or nobility? Purple was the color of royalty in Europe around the Renaissance. In convents, color and fancy clothing was not encouraged. Try googling on royalty and the Renaissance. I am looking at Halloween costumes from the Renaissance era, and Renaissance festival and they all are purple with gold threads.
 
The dress color was light blue. It looked like a dress for a rich person but I wasn't in a rich place so the hypothesis of the convent sounds plausible. Also the details of the keys now has a meaning.


I made a research today for the other memorie I had , the one from the natives and yes, cremation was not usual but I was surprised to read that, in fact, they use to mount the corpse on some kind of wood boards to avoid animal from eating the body.


Mind blowing
 
After searching and googling... I am pretty sure I can say that I was in a Comanche tribe. I read what their death ritual was and everything about the preparation of the body is exactly what I saw. The body was tied with ropes and wrapped with a blanket. Then put on a wooden board. So I guess one life is gone. How many I still miss to discover?? Lol!!
 
Comanche, eh? Cool find! Any idea on what time period that would be from?

How many I still miss to discover?? Lol!!
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Wouldn't we all like to know! Think of it as one down, ___ to go! LOL
 
Jada said:
One thing I omitted was that i saw a floor ( no wall, no room just a floor) and the floor was actually made of rough stone.. Looked like a really poor ambient to live.
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What you are describing (keys, light blue dress, stone floor) sounds to me like a medieval life. The stone floor would be quite grand to them. Most people had to make do with a dirt floor with rushes on top. Stone was a step up from wood, which could catch fire.


I do not want to taint your memories in anyway. You, of course, knows what feels right. But . . .


I do not think you were in a convent.


The Mother Superior / convent would have a senior person keep the keys. Perhaps you joined one later in life?
 
...The first one I had, it was during a recorded regression from one of Brian Weiss book. I just saw myself from my feet. I wore very nice shoes from that time. I'm sure it was like Florence reinassance (1300..?) .. I saw my dress, so refined with the finest material and golden embroidery.. I was a girl probably 14/16 years old. Then I noticed I had a belt with some big heavy keys hanging on. ..
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I agree that such fine clothes would be unlikely to belong in a convent, but you never know....


It is normal to remember significant moments from a past life, rather than things that are just 'random'. Just like the present life, we tend to remember the important stuff, not the 'noise'.


Wearing keys might be something the 'lady of the house' would do? You might entrust copies to a housekeeper or other servant, but the lady of the house would keep the most important ones.


Now, you will have to do some work yourself to find out what this is all about, but could it be that perhaps your mother had died, or you had got married, or in some other way, you had become the 'lady of the house' which is why having these keys seemed significant at that moment? Just an idea.

..My second one was more significant because I saw something i could never knew. It was something like a funeral ceremony of Native Americans. I saw a lot of details like hair and things on their hair... They were buring a corpse in a big big amount of dry leaves. The corpse was somehow tied with ropes on a wooden board....
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Good work doing some research. That's all very interesting. Again, this is probably a significant moment in that life. Who do you think the funeral was for? It would probably be someone close to you. If you had to guess, what would be the first thing that comes to you? If nothing comes, when you have some time, relax, breathe quietly for a while, and go back over the scene in your mind. See it all again. All the details. The sights, sounds and smells. Then, when you have it nice and clear, see if any more information will come. Ask yourself, what am I doing here? What's this all about?


This is a good technique when you just have a few brief flashes like this. There is usually more.
 
hello again and thanks for your replies..


I finally looked for some validation and i found it, in both cases.


about the keys , yes, I'm pretty sure I wasn't the household of a mansion or a big house. The whole scene looked more poor and it seemed to me more like a convent than a rich house.


i could feel a "sad mood" ... and the keys, they were just big metal keys on a chord belt. my dress was the only "rich" item in the whole scene.


But now i found this -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chatelaine_(chain)


and everything now has a new meaning...


For the second past life, i found this... -> "After he died, the Comanches immediately buried his body. His knees were folded to his chest, and his head tilted forward before the warmth left his body. The body was bound in this position with a rope, and then bathed. The face was painted red, and the eyes sealed with clay.


The deceased was attired in the finest available clothing, and then laid upon a blanket. Loved ones took a final look at the deceased, and then the body was wrapped in another blanket and tied with buffalo-hide rope. Placed in a sitting position on a horse, with a woman riding behind, the body was taken to the burial place, which was usually a cave, a deep ravine, or a crevice high among the rocks.


The body was placed in a sitting position, or on its side, in a hole, or on the ground, around stacked rocks and wooden poles. In the late 1800s, some Comanches, especially those living along the Red River, built tree or scaffold burial structures like those used by the Cheyenne and other Plains Indians. "


this is pretty much the same i had in my vision...


i also read that this comanche people were excellent horse riders .. this makes me smile a bit, because I've never rode a horse, they scare me to death and I feel terrified when I see horses.


LOL


Tanguerra , thanks for your answer. yes, i know who was the dead man in my vision. he is my father in my current life. he was my father in that life as well.
 
Jada said:
i also read that this comanche people were excellent horse riders .. this makes me smile a bit, because I've never rode a horse, they scare me to death and I feel terrified when I see horses.
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This fear is probably from a different past life. Maybe you were accidentally killed by a horse.
 
Jada said:
the keys, they were just big metal keys on a chord belt. my dress was the only "rich" item in the whole scene.
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The Wikipedia link does not look like what you saw, does it? What is pictured there came much later in time, I am guessing. What do you think of these ?


In the medieval period, they would hang off a long cord attached to the waist. Also, a person wore their wealth. Your description of your clothes matches this perfectly. Color was very important too. There were laws about who could wear what type of clothing.


I think you might consider changing your view of what a wealthy person's house might look like.


This is a Lord's house, in the early medieval period. It is a wealthy person's house, because much of it is made of stone; not mud, not wattle and dub, not wood, but stone.


This is a merchant's house, about 100 years later.
 
Hi Blueheart!! And thanks a lot, first of all!


So, yes. The keys are exactly what I saw. The house and the stones colors, material in general, yes, it fits. So I guess you're right on everything! The keys are absolutely the same. About the girl who supposed to be me in a previous life I know I didn't have any children. So after searching again I know that the dress I wore it's called HOUPPELANDE... : )


And , about other life today I spoke with my mother on phone and I told her about these comanche people... So she told me that when she was just a child she kept insisting telling my grandmother and to everybody she was Indian.. OMG


May I take this as an extra validation maybe?
 
Jada said:
And , about other life today I spoke with my mother on phone and I told her about these comanche people... So she told me that when she was just a child she kept insisting telling my grandmother and to everybody she was Indian.. OMG
May I take this as an extra validation maybe?
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East Indians are not the same as "American Indians". American Indians were called that because Christopher Columbus thought he had reached India. So in the U.S. we now call them "Native American" so it's not as confusing. We now have large numbers of people from India living here so it was becoming too confusing for many people. In Canada the native peoples are now called "First Nation".
 
...except when they run casinos. Then we call their enterprise an "Indian Casino". Confused yet?


Interesting post. Looks like you are onto something. As for the funeral that is right on the money. I know, I work at an Indian Casino :)

argonne1918 said:
East Indians are not the same as "American Indians". American Indians were called that because Christopher Columbus thought he had reached India. So in the U.S. we now call them "Native American" so it's not as confusing. We now have large numbers of people from India living here so it was becoming too confusing for many people. In Canada the native peoples are now called "First Nation".
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Jada said:
So, yes. The keys are exactly what I saw. The house and the stones colors, material in general, yes, it fits. So I guess you're right on everything! The keys are absolutely the same. About the girl who supposed to be me in a previous life I know I didn't have any children. So after searching again I know that the dress I wore it's called HOUPPELANDE... : )
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From Wikipedia

Status Among Women
The chatelaine was also used as a woman's keychain in the 19th century to show the status of women in a household. The woman with the keys to all the many desks, chest of drawers, food hampers, pantries, storage containers, and many other locked cabinets was "the woman of the household." As such, she was the one who would direct the servants, housemaids, cooks and delivery servicemen and would open or lock the access to the valuables of the house. On the chatelaine would hang the keys which gave her the authority over who could access what within the household. Frequently this hostess was the senior woman of the house. When a woman married a son and moved into his father's house, the son's mother would usually hold on to the keys. However, if the mother became a widow, the keys and their responsibilities and status were often passed to the oldest son's wife. Younger women and daughters in the house often wanted the appearance of this responsibility, and would often wear a pretty chatelaine without the keys, but with a variety of other objects instead. Especially bright and glittering objects that could be used to start a conversation were attached instead of the keys.[6] Absent a woman of the house, the controller of the keys was often a hired housekeeper...
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Interesting. So I was on the right track! It's possible that you had the era wrong? Maybe it's more recent than you originally thought? You thought 1300, maybe it's more like 1800? Then again, the dress is more medieval. This business of wearing key chains might be older than the Wikipedia article suggests? It wouldn't be the first time that someone has remembered something that was a bit incorrect in the history books.


You said you have the feeling that this house with the 'rough stone floor' was 'poor', although your clothes were relatively fine? I wonder what the story behind all that is? It would be interesting if you could try to get a bit more information by meditating on it. Were you married very young perhaps? (It happened a lot, especially the further back you go). Were you dressing up with your mother's keys? If so, why? Many areas for further explanation.

..And , about other life today I spoke with my mother on phone and I told her about these comanche people... So she told me that when she was just a child she kept insisting telling my grandmother and to everybody she was Indian.. OMG
May I take this as an extra validation maybe?
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Jada said:
Tanguerra , thanks for your answer. yes, i know who was the dead man in my vision. he is my father in my current life. he was my father in that life as well.
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That's very interesting. It is pretty common for people to reincarnate together in the same family. It's possible you knew your mother in this life as well maybe?
 
AOSpare said:
...except when they run casinos. Then we call their enterprise an "Indian Casino". Confused yet?
Interesting post. Looks like you are onto something. As for the funeral that is right on the money. I know, I work at an Indian Casino :)
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When the Indians (Native Americans) had no money no one paid any attention to them. Now the politicians and business people go visit the Indian Casinos (we have 4 within 60 miles of me in rural Calif.) and ask them for money. Indian Casinos allow smoking indoors, which has caused some non Indian eating houses to close. The Calif. drought has been exacerbated by the dams being forced to release water into the rivers for the fish. Who wants water to protect the fish? The Indians want their salmon back after 75 years. Do you think the Indians might be using some of their new money for political contributions? For those who don't know, a smart Indian lawyer in the 1970's found a loophole in Federal law. There is no Federal law against gambling, it was left up to each state. Indian Reservations are considered Federal land and state laws do not apply. It took several years but finally the U.S. Supreme Court agreed with the Indians. The flood gates have been opened ever since. It was either allow them to have gambling casinos or pay them for the land we stole from them in the 1700 & 1800's.
 
Bit off topic guys? Also, as has been pointed out, the preferred term is 'Native American' or 'First People' rather than 'Indians'.


Thanks.


T.
 
tanguerra said:
Bit off topic guys? Also, as has been pointed out, the preferred term is 'Native American' or 'First People' rather than 'Indians'.
Thanks.


T.
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Unless you're Canadian. Then it's "First Nation". What about Australia? What do you call the aboriginals now?
 
I know I had the real validation about the natives .. Yes, about what my mum said when she was a child, I used that as a "joke" or a provocation but what really I said about my


Memory , I'm sure I'm on the right path. I remember clearly these


Black hair shining under the sunlight and I remember I was the one with no hairdo , my hair were loose and long . I also read that they used to have loose hair when someone in your family died and they kept having loose hair as a sign on loss for at least a month. I know the one deceased was probably my father. I know it because I was attending the ritual as a spectator and I was alone and again, only the closest relatives could attend the ritual , as I read. My comanche father didn't help me when he was alive. Didn't do a great parenting job with me, he was more into other things about the "war" or what to conquer , or what tribes were friends and who was not... Things like this. When he was alive I had his protection and the rest of the people was nice to me. When he died , I was a "problem" since I didn't have a specific role and couldn't replace my fathers role. I remember I was there and I had resentment because he didn't teach me, he didn't help me, he didn't left any role or values I could hinerit and use at my advantage in that life. I knew that for me, as he died, life would be harder in that tribe because Everyone was waiting for him to go, since he was rude and not very loved from other people. Nowaday, there are some differences but it's pretty much my current situation. My dad is fighting with a cancer and honestly we


Don't see any great chances to survive , but he is doing chemo , he didn't make a good job with me. No parenting skills.. I know he won't left me anything in case he died ... He just put me in a position where I can't ask or claim what I deserve legally and I'm


Not mad at him for this. He just put me in a position where I'm a stranger since my parents divorced. .. I won't explain deep details because it could be annoying but I know it... Also my dad was the first person ever who told me about the natives. He used to tell me how they used to take care of their hair and I havr know idea who he went throught that informations. He had great artistic skill and his favorite subjects were horses...
 
For tanguerra... Sorry I didn't read your answer.. All I know is I was about 15, probably married , but I was alone in the house. I also remember the shoes I was wearing , called "poulines" , basically black decorated shoes with a Long point... Quite bizarre. I had another memory but it seems to me like I can't resume the old ones. : (
 
Jada, I do not think parenting of girls is the same for Native Americans as to us Europeans. It is a more patriarchal culture, but that does not mean that fathers do not love their daughters.


Our "overlords" on their land prefer their tribal name Yocha-de-hee. Their golf course is named Yocha-de-hee and it is heavenly, I payed there twice - it is unforgettable, a beautiful course..(sorry for being off topic)

argonne1918 said:
When the Indians (Native Americans) had no money no one paid any attention to them. Now the politicians and business people go visit the Indian Casinos (we have 4 within 60 miles of me in rural Calif.) and ask them for money. Indian Casinos allow smoking indoors, which has caused some non Indian eating houses to close. The Calif. drought has been exacerbated by the dams being forced to release water into the rivers for the fish. Who wants water to protect the fish? The Indians want their salmon back after 75 years. Do you think the Indians might be using some of their new money for political contributions? For those who don't know, a smart Indian lawyer in the 1970's found a loophole in Federal law. There is no Federal law against gambling, it was left up to each state. Indian Reservations are considered Federal land and state laws do not apply. It took several years but finally the U.S. Supreme Court agreed with the Indians. The flood gates have been opened ever since. It was either allow them to have gambling casinos or pay them for the land we stole from them in the 1700 & 1800's.
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