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Emily's Little Sister

Deportment is an old word. I've heard of it, but don't think it's been in use since the 40s or 50s. Sounds like she may have been a sailor on a sailing ship. Ask her to draw a picture of the ship and the FLAG it was flying.
 
Wow, I'm so glad that you are keeping track of what Lilly has been saying as it is very fascinating! She might even appreciate it one day that you took her seriously and wrote all of this down.


My brother used to talk about a past life brother and family between the ages of 2-6 all the time when we were younger. I wish my parents had more foresight to take him seriously and write what he said down. I am only 5 years older than him so it's hard for me to remember what he said myself.
 
Hi, I've been through Mons quite a few times :-)


Maybe you can see if the name 'Bergen' (the g spoken like a cat getting angry ghhhhh!!!) means anything to her, because that is the Dutch name for the same city.


She was obviously a French speaking person and would know Mons better as a name, but perhaps the name Bergen rings a bell too.


Deportment is a very classy word! Did she use it to describe the way someone was carrying themselves?


Or may she have used the word 'deportement'? Because if so, it may have a very different, sad meaning. It means 'being transported against your will' - usually as a group - the way you would transport cattle.


It is mostly used to describe the way the Jewish people and some other groups were transported away from their homes to concentration camps by the nazi's in WWII. But it is also still in use to describe other ways of human trafficking. In any case, it is a word with a very negative ring to it.


In what context did Lilly use the word?


Also, there is an artificial lake just outside Mons, called La Grand-Large (I guess that would translate to 'the wide open waters) a.k.a. the ocean to Mons people :-P ). It has a port for little sail boats. I can't figure out when the lake was made exactly, but it seems to be the early 1900's. Probably to help water levels when they dug the canals to transport coals and such during the industrialisation.


You said she was probably there before the industrialisation though. What makes you think that?
 
PLE123 said:
In what context did Lilly use the word?
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She was trying to talk about school and her performance. She was talking about how and where she had to stand in the group. She got a confused look on her face, and said "Will you come and watch my deportment? Deportment? I mean . . ."


It was the English pronunciation. I suspect it was attached to "old school" memories and "when I was 16."

You said she was probably there before the industrialisation though. What makes you think that?
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Nothing concrete, exactly. Just a feeling and some muddled family history which may play a part.


I will try out the flag and the Dutch name if the moment arises. Thanks, ZeonChar and all, for reading.


I understand it is confusing reading these snippets this way and there is a natural need to want to put all of the pieces together in a neat little package, but I learned from my other two kids -better to just wait and see what comes up. These may all be from one life, or two, or three, or none at all. Who knows?
 
de·port·ment noun \di-?p?rt-m?nt, d?-\


: the way that a person behaves, stands, and moves especially in a formal situation


Full Definition of DEPORTMENT


: the manner in which one conducts oneself : behavior


See deportment defined for English-language learners »


See deportment defined for kids »


Examples of DEPORTMENT


The new students were instructed in proper dress and deportment.


His stiff deportment matched his strict demeanor.


First Known Use of DEPORTMENT
 
New Lilly comment:


"When I grow up, I want to be a kid again, so I can come live with you."


For the record, we have never discussed end-of-life scenarios with or around her.
 
We were explaining to Emily the difference between a tour and a tor (misspelling in her homework), when Lilly chimed in. I did not even think she was listening, but she said matter-of-factly:


"There is a place half way up, where you stop, leave something, and have a little rest."
 
There is a "Mam Tor" in England. I wonder if that's what she meant? Can you get her to elaborate? Or maybe it was related to her life in Mons? The dictionary definition for "tor" is a pile of rocks on top of a hill. Mons is Latin for mountains.


https://www.google.com/search?q=tor+location&client=aff-maxthon-maxthon4&hs=44L&affdom=maxthon.com&channel=t27&biw=1001&bih=538&tbm=isch&imgil=n1yryCv-T2hRAM%253A%253BNO8X2CkAggWJMM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.mountain-forecast.com%25252Fpeaks%25252FMam-Tor&source=iu&pf=m&fir=n1yryCv-T2hRAM%253A%252CNO8X2CkAggWJMM%252C_&usg=__YwKK-zwHZZ4xpvlspb7JMJl85ac%3D&ved=0CFcQyjc&ei=Y-FIVbG4LJayoQTqg4F4#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACZ9cq8gr_1k9oIjgRRMIM83ALHDqlZOHmHB7Syox79UeNdpdRNrMzXrWoHMmMVicZjz6UKj58DvQ-2zxUyp_19dgq92SoSCRFEwgzzcAscETTvF9gpAIIFKhIJOqVk4eYcHtIRHXhqiV-diuIqEgnKjHv1R412lxHtUqcUJ62xRyoSCVE2szNetagcEa6EaUUg8YQ7KhIJyYxWJxmPPpQR1saONr7FVXIqEgkqPnwO9D7bPBEsiAYTEVNfByoSCVTKn_112Cr3ZEaTDA9AoP_1PK&q=tor%20location&imgdii=n1yryCv-T2hRAM%3A%3Bn1yryCv-T2hRAM%3A%3BKj58DvQ-2zx4MM%3A
 
Interesting. There are many 'tors' which are often places of pilgrimage. There would be little shrines along the way where you would stop, have a drink of water perhaps, have a rest and make a little offering of some food or a few pennies for the upkeep of the shrine. Pilgrimages were a big deal back in the days. It was the main form of 'tourism'.


Glastonbury Tor is another example.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glastonbury_Tor
 
From "whence it came" the interest in kenons/scurvy, tor and deportment all sound English to me. Do you have connections to England at all?


regards The wanderer in England.
 
argonne,


I tried to get her to elaborate, but as usual, she just snapped out of it. I asked her, "where was this?"


She said, with some sass she's picked up from her sisters, "I don't know. I think I just made it up. Forget it already."


wanderer,


We do have "connections" to England, but nothing she would pick up from this life, I don't think. My husband's ancestory (with a bunch of other things too. Typical for an American, who's family has been here since before the Revolution) and past life memories as well.
 
Lilly and I have had some interesting conversations lately. I will jot them down here, before I forget.


A month ago, she mentioned that sometimes she could see movement that was not really there. She told me that her imagination made it happen, but then seemed to wonder about that. I asked a lot of questions. She said that sometimes she could see lights and other things. The lights were not always round (light dust motes) or silvery (like a precursor to a migraine), but could be irregularly shaped. She said she could see them with her eyes, not just in her head, but that no one else could.


Since then, we have been talking about dreams. One dream of note, she said she was a crow that flew around in a square and played chess.


I asked, "Do you know how to play chess?"


She answered, "When I was a crow, I did."
 
Another possible English / European connection?


When asking for more fries at dinner, Lilly called them chips. What was odd was that she was corrected and was embarrassed about it, but then she did it again. Needless to say, no one calls them that around here. No one.
 
Blueheart said:
Another possible English / European connection?
When asking for more fries at dinner, Lilly called them chips. What was odd was that she was corrected and was embarrassed about it, but then she did it again. Needless to say, no one calls them that around here. No one.
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Fish and chips is a popular British food. And now you can even buy "Fish and Chips" frozen dinners here in the U.S. Why not buy it for her sometime and tell her she was right? Or print it out and show her she was correct? I think it's good for kids to have their past life memories validated, even if they don't remember where the memory comes from. Even if people tell her she is wrong it doesn't mean that she is. Is she old enough to look things up on the internet?


http://www.eatyourbest.com/products/smart-creations/fish-chips.aspx


And here is the history of "fish and chips". It may give a clue to where she remembers it from. And there is even a Belgian connection.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_and_chips
 
Its not just Fish and chips Argonne, "chips" is just our word for any thick-cut deep-fried potato baton. The term may well be in common usage across the Commonwealth. We still tend to call the thin-cut variety "fries" though, to distinguish them from chips.
 
helz_belz said:
Its not just Fish and chips Argonne, "chips" is just our word for any thick-cut deep-fried potato baton. The term may well be in common usage across the Commonwealth. We still tend to call the thin-cut variety "fries" though, to distinguish them from chips.
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The wikipedia article said the closest thing Americans have are the ones called "Steak fries". I have eaten those and they are thicker than the regular ones. The article said the thicker ones are actually healther.
 
We didn't tell her she was wrong. We thought she was asking for potato chips after we had just baked up some fries and were sitting down to eat. And, yes, they were steak fries, so that was probably the trigger. Although, we have had them before. . .
 
Well, she is a kid, so she likes Mac and Cheese and stuff like that, but she still loves French bread, so we get that for her every now and then. She also discovered that they serve pizza on French bread at school, and now she wants that all the time.
 
Maybe when she is older she could learn to cook French food. Maybe she will remember and it will be easy for her.
 
One new thing. Lilly has started . . .er . . . smelling the bouquet, I guess you would call it, when I drink red wine. (Don't judge me!) It is a little awkward, given that she is so young, but she says she likes the smell. I am hoping it is a past-life thing.
 
A new game has been played by my youngest this year, that started out as a mistake. In a writing exercise at school, Lilly wrote, "My cat is god," meaning "good," of course. Well, the work came home and we had a bit of a laugh, and then had to explain to her what g-o-d spells. And then we had to ask her if she even knew what that meant. She didn't, not really. Much to certain family member's horror, we are not church-goers.

A few weeks went by and then she began building "temples to the god" for our very patient, much put-upon cat to sit inside. It looked like so much fun that Emily joined in and soon the temple had taken over the living room. Complete with us having to leave offerings for our god-cat.

After a while, the cat was having no more of this, so Lilly switched to a stuffed cat. Then, she began draping the god with necklaces. So much of the stuffed cat was covered, in the end, it just had two eyes poking out.

For the record, we do not discuss religion at home. Lilly might have known what a temple was, architecturally speaking, but she has never been in one. She might have seen it on tv somewhere, but I doubt My Little Pony has much to say about world religions.
 
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