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Cases Of Proven Past Lives

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ChrisMc

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Hi to y'all

I recently got the strong urge to research reincarnation, and recently means last week. I've since read "Old Souls" and Newton's "Souls" series, and found a few contradictions between the two.

I am more persuaded by Stevensons proof than Newtons, which is why I ask this question;
are there any books/authors that have researched the lives people claim to have lived under regression to prove or disprove that these alleged lives did occur?

It's OK for someone to be hypnotised and talk about a past life. There may be some fantasy conciousness being reached. But how many of these alleged past lives have actually checked out as true?

For example on the TV in the UK a hypnotist called Andrea Foulkes is regressing certain celebrities into past lives. The most recent was a dancer called Wayne Sleep who claims to have been a magician/performer in Paris in 1896 called Louis Pierre. The TV shows researcher could not find anyone by that name. His next past life was a British soldier called Private Luke Sinclair who was shot dead in the trenches in 1916. The show's researcher found that there was a Private Luke Sinclair shot dead in trenches, the only Private Luke Sinclair, but shot in 1915!

There is some truth and not. It's all fascinating stuff but not quite solid hard proof e.g. discrepancy between 1915 and 1916.

So I'm looking for research which has followed up on past lives from regression to prove or disprove them.

Any suggestions?

Chris
 
Probably................

The most recent public display of research was on The Primetime TV show April 15th this year; you can read about Jame's and what his mother and father say in this thread.

The father was a skeptic until he researched what his son was saying and found it to be true.

This was not a regression - the son was spontaneously remembering.
 
Chris -there is also a book titled Looking for Carroll Beckwith - a true story of a Detective's Search for his Past Life. by Captain Robert L. Snow. He was a MAJOR skeptic and did the research to prove reincarnation was make believe. But -his research proved otherwise.
 
Sometimes past lives memories and dreams are so vague,
that it's hard to find out if it really happened.
For the people who have those dreams or how have been regressed
it's most of all the emotional issue that counts.
Collecting past life evidence is a tough job,
it's almost the same kind of job as people who research the history of their ancestors.
Which can be so frustrating if you can't find the right documents or dates.

I for instance tried to trace my grandfather,
I did search a lot of databases,
but still he doesn't exist.
He has to, because if he didn't exist I wouldn't either.

I don't think that the difference between 1915 and 1916
is a lack of proof because it's close enough.
It would be a problem when there's a letter found from this soldier dated: May 1921 :)

But you're right, it's fun to know the facts,
to see them in old manuscripts.
To know that you've existed before.

I don't have any proof about my past life, I don't even know my last name.
And if I know where I've been burried, who knows if that grave still exists?
I could try to find out, well maybe later when I've got plenty of time.

Curious Girl.

Ps) I bet Louis Pierre did exist, but it's hard to find someone without a family name,
Louis Pierre is probably an artist's name.
And I know, I was in Paris in 1896 ;)
 
Hiya,

Carol Bowman talks about following-up on children's past life memories in her books.

I agree with Curiousgirl. I also feel that 1915/1916 is pretty darn close. After all, I don't recall most of the relevant years in my current life. In fact I tend to be more accurate (or seem to be) with past-life things, because I get told the year by its emotional significance or out of the ether and so on. Remembering numbers is not my strong suit at all. So since the event would be the same regardless of year in that case, it doesn't seem to be an important discrepancy, as Curiousgirl said. If the years had been far apart, then maybe it'd be an issue.

But if the emotional impact is the same to the individual, even the event wouldn't have to be remembered accurately. Read sometime someone's autobiography and the biographies written by other people. In cases where there's no apparent motivation to lie, several years' discrepancy can be reported by the person remembering and the person researching. It's how it felt that's important, whereas to the researcher it's the fact that's important. This is why I like to read autobiographies when they are available, because I prefer to get the impressions of the life through the eyes of the individual, rather than "hard facts" if I have to choose.

This is not to say outside impressions are not extremely valuable to understanding a self. It's just that many people seem to set requirements on past-life memories that they would never give any importance to in current-life memories. One so-called skeptic on a tv program I saw said that if a woman (I believe it was that famous Irish mother/children story in this case) had a past life in a particular time period, why couldn't she tell us, for example, who was on the coin of the realm? And I'm like, what?? _I_ can't tell you who's on the money in my pocket right now unless I look... I apparently exist according to the social security administration, however. But, sometimes my existence is indeed questioned. People will say in front of my face that "no one ever" or "people don't" or "you never" and yet I experienced it. Not just about past lives.

Until we have soul DNA tests or something like that, we can't "prove" past lives because it won't be shown that a particular individual continued from one life to another. First, we'd have to define individual, then we'd have to show they continued. In this life, if someone says they were or were not in a particular place, some kinds of evidence can prove it. However, often we base our "facts" on witness testimony or-- just on the memories the person has! And memories sometimes are, many times aren't reliable. I have extremely clear and accurate this-life memories of some surprising things, and I also forget surprising things.

Sometimes there seems no rhyme or reason to what I recall or lose completely. I can be reminded, but other times I can't even be reminded, yet I trust the other remember-er. So, accuracy probably isn't the key so much as what's important to the individual at the time, regardless of whether it's past or current lives. On the other hand, I tend to fear being inaccurate about past lives (at least, one in particular) because it feels so important to me and I have no way to pin it down with conventional means. So, I guess it all depends on how much emotional importance one places on "factual" accuracy. Which brings it back again to individual emotional needs.
 
past life validation

Hi Chris, Deborah and all: I have checked out one of my so-called past lives. I say so-called, because the info did not come from me. It came from a friend during her own regression into that same period. The things that came through in her regression(s), it was over quite a period of time, were nothing short of amazing.

It was in Miss. just prior to the civil war, and she had a very privileged life up until about the time the war started. Then it was very tragic. But she said that her family knew me and my family. I was much older than she, but she gave me my name, my sister's name and my father's name.

Of course I did research and it was hair raising. My father was very wealthy and built a house for my sister and for me. They were close in proximity, but there was a competition between us. I died at a fairly early age, so I ordered a copy of my will. It was very unusual for women in that time period to own property and would have no need for a will. I was hoping that it would be in my handwriting and I could compare. Unfortunately it was a deathbed will because of the sudden nature of my illness, so that really didn't help. I even found my grave in the cemetery.

The moral of all of this was this was given to me by someone who only had a 6th grade education, knew nothing of this part of the country, and to this day has never visited that city.

There's more to this story, and maybe I'll post again later. Thanks.
 
Hey Curious Girl,

Just a note. Yes I've done geneaology research too and according to any legal records, my grandfather didn't exist either which would make it rather difficult for me to be here. HAHA:laugh:

Unfortunately records aren't always in the greatest condition. WW 1 records of warriors from the US were destroyed in a fire in St Louis in the 70s, so all of my grandfather on the other side's information was destroyed.

My grandfather from PA was born in 1872, but there are no birth documents, and he died in 1905 but once again, no death certificate. HOWEVER, thanks to my grandmother, I have the Family Bible which she kept records of all the birth and death dates, the marriages, etc.
:thumbsup: The really amazing thing, was that inside the Bible is a lock of baby's hair and a picture of an infant. She lost a three year old in 1905, and she lost a year old infant in 1906.(I can find the death certificates for both of these babies) Then she raised three remaining children by herself.
I have a lot of respect for that lady.

catseye
 
I agree on how records can often vanish, or for a person to never appear in them in the first place. Plenty of people just don't leave a paper trail...this is true even today, think of someone in the future remembering a life as an undocumented immigrant, for example. I've done a bit of genealogy as well (I love uncovering all the stories of these people's lives, or at least what fragments I can find of them), and have a lot of dead ends due to records being destroyed.

Catseye, so good to see you here again, by the way!
 
Chris - we have added a new thread in the FAQ section -titled Compelling Cases. I hope everyone finds the links useful, and thought provoking. :)
 
Chris I think if I were on the trenches with my life on the line every second, I'd lose track of time too. I would not be aware that for example December had turned to January and it was a brand new year. Calendars would be the last thing on my mind under such conditions.

The discrepancy is not large enough to make a difference. If as Curious girl pointed out records existed for this person in 1921..well then that's a different story.
 
If either of you women above are still looking for your grandfathers, I am a certified Genealogist and would be more than happy to help you. I love helping other people with Genealogy and I never charge. I have only had 2 people I couldnt find and they were from the 1600s. If you want help, send me a message w/birth/death dates and/or any facts you have.


Back to the topic- I believe that some people are closed minded because they are afraid of the unknown and some arent brave enough to forget their prejudices about reincarnation and take another look.
 
Hi, I just wanted to add, that you can not always trust names and dates from old written records. An example from my own family - My great grand parents are buried in Golden Gate National Cemetary in SF. My G-Grandfather's name on the stone and in the records is wrong. They used his baptism name instead of his actual name. My gramma tried to get it fixed but, being military, "They are always right and Gramma was wrong' - they refused to correct it, SO... any later descendant will be thrown by that name difference.


You can't alway rely on records. It helps that you know your family's oral history. Oral history will be more and more difficult to maintain in this society because people scatter and move around so much. There's not a whole lot of visiting in many families due to distance and the stories are not being passed down. I happened to be able to hang out and listen to my grandparents so I know our family history, but my nieces and nephews don't know much. They never had the opportunity. I'll have to write out what I know one of these days. And in any case, the stories are much more interesting than dry listings of dates and places. To me, dates are of not much importance if the human story is missing. :) lol... I KNOW we aren't related to any kind of royalty. :laugh:
 
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