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A Psychic's bad call - SB

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The link to the article is here: Sylvia Browne

Earlier this week three missing Ohio women were found after one of them, Amanda Berry, managed to gain the attention of a neighbor from the home that had become their prison. Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus, and Michelle Knight were held for over a decade, and police are now unraveling how it happened, and why the captives weren’t discovered sooner. In the midst of the media frenzy a variety of angles and personalities have emerged, including the involvement of infamous professional psychic Sylvia Browne. In 2004 Browne told Berry’s mother, Louwanna Miller, on The Montel Williams show, that her child was dead.

Some members have asked - should I believe what a Psychic tells me? I'd say NO. Even the most famous. Me personally - I would take it with a grain of salt...but trust my own instincts more. ;)

How I feel about SB? locked1

Thought this might be a good topic - pro or con.
 
I know a lot of people here rely on them, but my only experience with one (unsolicited) was so bad, that I would never consult another. She told me how I would die, when and how, which is something I'd never want to know. It felt like a curse. I don't believe in those, but I think that if you think you will die at a certain age, you might! She ruined my vacation, so I focus on the things she said that weren't true, rather than the things that were. I think that the only instincts I can trust are my own.
 
I tend to take it all with a grain of salt when someone is being paid and makes lots of money off of their "gifts".
 
Mama2HRB said:
I tend to take it all with a grain of salt when someone is being paid and makes lots of money off of their "gifts".
In 1988, shortly before my NDE - I had a routine to walk up a hill to a store and have a 'soda.' I was living in the Wahiawa District Oahu close to the Waianae Range. I woke up every morning and joked it was another day in paradise.


Each day, I would see an elderly Filipino woman peddling 'flowers' on the corner to passing motorist. I got in the habit of greeting her every day with a big 'aloha.' One day she called me over to her and said she had something to share with me. She took my hand and started telling me things about my past. At that time - I was still suffering an amnesic mind so - I couldn't tell if she was accurate or not. She did echo something my family had told me. "You have died many times. How are you alive? It is going to happen again...soon. Take care of yourself."


She then said, "I am going to tell you something that don't make sense to me - but it is supposed to make sense to you."


My own 'psychic' days were long behind me and I had grown leery of those who claimed they were. What she had said did make sense to me and I asked her how she knew to say that to me. She just pointed her finger upwards and gave me a nod. Then she said, "I didn't know to say it to you. That comes from our maker. That One knows to say it to you through me like it was said. Not me."


I felt awkward in that moment because she was a stranger but - I wanted to hug and kiss her on the cheek. Instead, (and I don't know why) I reached in my pocket and took out some money to hand her. She looked at me as if I had 'passed gas' with a look of disappointment on her face. She then said,


"I am just a humble messenger. Nothing more and nothing less. You have to give credit where credit is due. God don't charge me a dime for the gifts I am given. This gift is not for profit ....it is to be enjoyed freely. If I started taking money for it - God would stop giving them to me freely."


In that moment, I knew I had been blessed to cross paths with the 'greatest psychic' in the world.


The message had been accurate. A few months later - I had another NDE.


Sincerely,


DKing
 
I can only comment on those I've dealt with and whether they require money or not, the information I have obtained has been true and effective for my purposes. I have never dealt with life and death matters and my questions have usually focused around familial and local events, but I must say that those I've worked with have never made money the primary point of exchange for information.
 
Well said. We were long ago given the same information. I am here to help, not to make money on the gifts. In return I get to enjoy talking to Pappy. I think that is a great return. :D
 
A long time ago I had a reading from a psychic which was very accurate and very specific, with a great deal of detail. Others I’ve had since were in the vein of, ‘you have issues with certain family members, you worry about money, remember to take care of your health, somebody loves you, you need to stay in balance and harmony with nature, yadda yadda…’ generic pap that applies to 99.5% of the population and I haven’t had any interest in seeing another.


I’ve never understood why charging money for a reading means that one will lose their ’gift’. Singers don’t lose their voice when they’re paid for singing. If psychic ability is seen as a gift from a mysterious unknown source, maybe, but I think we’re all aware that everyone has some intuitive ability to some extent. Some have more than others and it may seem woo-woo because we don’t understand it, but I think it’s more ’natural’ than ’unnatural’, and it’s not something that’s been gifted from the gods, so who’s going to take it away? The biggest hitch I can see is that even the most talented aren’t that deadly accurate, and that setting oneself up in business where one is supposed to come up with something day after day is going to lead to brain-fry.


As to SB, she doesn’t come across...as a nice person. I'll be quiet now.


Edited to add - if a psychic told me about my past lives, I’d be very skeptical. (That said, I’ve had a couple of experiences when I’ve seen an overlay of what I think was someone else's past life, go figure.) One reading did say I’d been a monk or nun several times in the Middle Ages and although I don’t have any memories it almost feels plausible. But I don’t take it as gospel.
 
Psychics come in all shapes and sizes, like any other "gift" that people possess or claim to possess. True, some are out-and-out fakes looking to scare folks out of their money, or are just fooling themselves for the personal ego boost. But there are some really good psychics and mediums out there who deserve to be paid for their time. And, if they didn't charge an outrageous sum for their time, they would be inundated by hoards of desperate people wishing for answers that they can't get elsewhere.


Unfortunately, we tend to hang our hats on whatever a psychic says, because we think that they possess some god-like wisdom just because they are able to occasionally pierce the impenetrable veil between the physical plane and the spirit world. Even the best psychics are sometimes wrong. Furthermore, some of them possess some quirks and beliefs that would suggest that they don't exactly qualify for sainthood. They are, like everyone else, quite fallable.
 
I'm going to throw in the real reason that I sometimes find people frequenting psychics disturbing. I have been pulled into reading the Tarot for people, not professionally of course. What most of them seem to want is to be told that their lives will magically change. They don't want to do anything to change it themselves. They want to wait passively for the door bell to ring, with someone offering a great job, or a lover, or a new car, etc. That isn't the way the universe works. You have to go out and do something proactive to get what you want. It doesn't fall into your lap like an over-ripe plum. The other reason they go is grief over dead relatives, or a "busted" relationship. I must be the only person on the forum who likes Sylvia Browne. At the peak of her career she gave people comfort, and frankly, I didn't care if it was a lie or not. If someone came to me asking about their dead child, what would I say? I would say that they didn't feel any pain, and that the child is sitting on the lap of Jesus, if that's what the parent wanted to hear. This is why "psychics" lie. Did I believe everything that Sylvia said? No. Would I believe that anyone else could channel my past lives? Probably not, but maybe I haven't met the right psychic. Other people trust them, and trust is a rare commodity. We all have intuition, and there are obviously people who have more. I tend to agree with Nightrain that ego gets involved. It's not money that ruins the "gift", it's ego.
 
Yes...Good article. I strongly believe that you should take ANY psychic's words with a pinch of salt. See how they ring true with your own intuition.


If a psychic tells you who you were in a past life, that does not make it so. If you have your own experiences, that is much more concrete. Now for example, my mom had 4 different psychics, in different states, and 1 in England, who all told her details about exact same past life of hers. Plus she has her own experiences to back up what they'd said! I believe they were correct, but I think some psychics misunderstand the information they receive. Some don't mean to relay incorrect things, others make it up. Some tell you truths you don't even know are true until years later. You just have to be careful and listen to yourself.
 
This may be a case of semantics, but I don't see how a psychic, working purely on a psychic level without linking in mediumistically to the person who's supposedly passed, could give such information out. I can only think of two possibilities....


1. She's psychically read from the mother's aura that she believes the child to be dead, and therefore has mistaken that for verified fact.


2. She's drawn a blank and made a complete 50 / 50 guess to protect her 'credibility' and ego, based on the notion that many missing people are never found, especially after such a long time, and therefore the likelihood of getting egg on her face would be minimal.


I wouldn't like to say for sure, but the more I see and read about Sylvia Browne, the more I begin to suspect the latter to be true.
 
I can't presume to know what Sylvia Browne's motives are at this point in her life, or any other psychic for that matter. I do know that she has suffered a lot of financial hardship, due to the dishonesty of other people. That might tend to make a person more "grasping" about money! Being "mature" myself, the fear of ending up a "bag lady" is rather strong, particularly if you have experienced financial hardship. I think what I like about her is that she readily admits to being "flawed", both as a human being, and a psychic. I have often wondered if all mediums are reading an individual, not a dead person. Ergo, the aura theory, Conroy, makes sense. No one believed that those girls were alive - it would be an act of cruelty to give someone in that situation false hope. That's often what people want from psychics - easy answers, and false hope. I think most psychics are right, part of the time! I think I have less belief in them than most users of this forum - I see psychics as "flawed" human beings, and empathize with them. Therefore, it is impossible for them to disappoint me.
 
My theory is that SB gave the mother closure. She died knowing that her daughter was dead, and it was useless to find her with the resources and opportunities she had back then. I think in this lifetime, their story is for us, not for the mother. Teach us a lesson about human nature. The mother served her purpose, as did the daughter. When I first heard about SB being involved in the story, I felt bad for her. Was going to see her in Vegas last year when I saw the ad, but found out that I missed it or didn't go to it. Haven't been a fan, but was still intrigued.


In a way, her daughter lived like she should die. How do we recover from such trauma? This will baffle me. I've lived a comfortable life and all my battles are from within. Afraid of the next life being in poverty or lack of female empowerment. Should have more faith in my nature though.
 
BriarRose said:
I can't presume to know what Sylvia Browne's motives are at this point in her life, or any other psychic for that matter. I do know that she has suffered a lot of financial hardship, due to the dishonesty of other people. That might tend to make a person more "grasping" about money! Being "mature" myself, the fear of ending up a "bag lady" is rather strong, particularly if you have experienced financial hardship. I think what I like about her is that she readily admits to being "flawed", both as a human being, and a psychic. I have often wondered if all mediums are reading an individual, not a dead person. Ergo, the aura theory, Conroy, makes sense. No one believed that those girls were alive - it would be an act of cruelty to give someone in that situation false hope. That's often what people want from psychics - easy answers, and false hope. I think most psychics are right, part of the time! I think I have less belief in them than most users of this forum - I see psychics as "flawed" human beings, and empathize with them. Therefore, it is impossible for them to disappoint me.
First of all, my apologies for this long post. Sometimes when I start writing, I find it hard to stop :)


As someone who's training with a view to working both psychically and mediumistically in the future (albeit I'm not entirely sure in what specific way yet), I can say that there is a difference between the two.


I find one good way of identifying that you're dealing mediumistically and linking with spirit is if you're passing information that neither party is aware of going into the session, which can be verified at a later date, either by consulting other sources (family, etc) who are aware of it being correct, or by a situation developing down the line where the information then makes sense, when it didn't fit before.


There was an example of this a few weeks ago at our regular development circle. I went off into meditation and suddenly started feeling an intense, uncomfortable pain in my right shoulder. I've not had any problems with that area, or indeed pain of any level, so this was strange to me.


I've seen mediums being given physical aches and pains by spirit many times so that they can convey those to the relatives / friends for further recognition of the spirit communicator. Because of this, I became aware that this was actually a message that needed to be passed on, so I tuned in to the communicator and asked through my guide if this was for someone in the circle, which was confirmed through touches on my face (a system of confirmation I'm developing with my people in spirit). I had a hunch who it was for anyway, so asked if it was for that person, which was again confirmed in the same way. I then asked for the message and was told that the person should get this particular pain checked out, as there could be something underlying (although not serious) causing it, which hasn't been discovered yet. I then asked if there was anything else to pass on, and finally asked the communicator to write up his name for me, so I could pass that on too, which he did.


When the meditation was over and we were all reporting back what we'd experienced, I gave the circle member the message and who it was from, etc. To her recollection, she hadn't experienced any pain in her right shoulder, so I thought it might have been a bit of a mix up, as she did have recurring pain in her left shoulder, which I already knew about. Nevertheless, she thanked me for the message, which was from her brother.


I didn't think any more about it until last week, when we met again for circle and she reported that she had begun getting the same intense, uncomfortable pain in her right shoulder that I'd described weeks before during her message, and had an appointment to get it checked out later that week. I think this stands up as a good example of information being passed from spirit which cannot be taken at the time, but which later transpires to be correct and applicable. This later confirmation was my validation that this information had come through a mediumistic link and not through linking in psychically, as I questioned when the information I passed on could not be taken immediately.


There are several factors in this particular case which sceptics might attempt to use as part of their counter-argument, suggesting I was using previously acquired information to pass on a false message.


1. The message concerned a physical pain which I already knew about prior to that time.


Wrong. I was aware that the person concerned suffered with chronic pain in their LEFT shoulder. This was very distinctly on my right hand side, and I reported it as such.


Also, if I'd been linking in psychically, rather than mediumistically, I would have picked up the pain in the left shoulder, as I have done before when working psychically in workshops with that person. I had enough trust in what I was getting to not allow my knowledge of the pain in the other shoulder to influence my reporting of the message and I gave it exactly as given, thereby honouring the integrity of the work.


2. I knew the name of the recipient's brother through previous conversations at circle.


True, but the fact that he gave me something that neither the recipient or I were aware of being correct at the time validates him as a true spirit communicator for me. If I'd just been making it up based on previous information, inserting things I already knew to be accurate, the part about the new pain wouldn't have featured. And that information came from him, not me, so case closed on that one, as far as I'm concerned.


3. The pain I experienced and subsequent pain the message’s recipient experienced were purely coincidental and not connected in any way.


Through many experiences, I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as coincidence. We are all on a specific and planned path, deliberately intersecting with other people involved in our life-plan, at particular times and for a reason. I have seen so many examples of synchronicity at work, especially since starting to do this work, that I firmly believe this to be the case. How many times, for example, have you thought about someone you haven’t heard from in a while, only for you to see that person soon afterwards in a completely ‘random’, ‘chance’ meeting? That’s just one example. There are far too many things like that for anything in our lives to be ‘random’. I’m firmly of the belief that certain things are meant to happen to us at certain times, and the more intuitively connected people are, the more they can tune into that.


The fact, also, that my (considerable) pain disappeared immediately after the message was passed to me, and has not recurred in any way since, even in a minor way, also provides evidence for me that the two are connected.


Going back to the Sylvia Browne case, I mentioned earlier in this post about the integrity and ethics of work like this, which I feel are extremely important to uphold. For me, unless she linked in mediumistically with the deceased (or supposedly deceased in this case) person in spirit, and therefore gained absolutely stonewall, concrete evidence that the person was in spirit, she should not have reported this to the relatives. For someone who’s made a living from this work for so long, I cannot buy that she is unable to tell the difference between a psychic link and a mediumistic one. Therefore, I am of the impression that this was an ‘educated’ guess that the person would not be found alive, which has now backfired on her.


BriarRose, you mentioned in your post about it being cruel to give the family false hope. I would argue that telling someone that their missing relative has definitely passed to spirit, when there is no evidence to support this through a mediumistic link, is far worse and gives those of us truly working with the best intentions for spirit a bad name. A long-time, experienced ‘professional’ like Sylvia Browne should be setting a standard and example for aspiring workers to follow. I cannot help but feel that, much like certain members of the Most Haunted crew, she has allowed the protection of her reputation to compromise her integrity through guesswork and / or fabrication of non-truths for the sake of ‘compelling’ television.


Again, my apologies for the long post :)
 
Conroy said:
There was an example of this a few weeks ago at our regular development circle. I went off into meditation and suddenly started feeling an intense, uncomfortable pain in my right shoulder. I've not had any problems with that area, or indeed pain of any level, so this was strange to me.
This one needed to be long, don't worry about it. It sounds like you are going to be a very good medium. You've probably always had this ability, but didn't know it.
 
I don't mean to be disrespectful, and I'm sure you have a real gift, Conroy. I have certainly seen John Edward do some amazing things, but for me, the jury is still out on mediums, and psychics in general. It's strange that I feel that way, because I have experienced many unusual things myself. I know when I make a "hit" while reading the Tarot, that I remind myself not to believe that I am anything "special" from a spiritual point of view. Ego comes into play, and ego destroys whatever "gift" exists. I think it unlikely that such a gift, if it is strong, and indeed exists, can remain "pure" and untainted by ego. For me, that pretty much closes the subject. Sylvia is probably no better, or worse, than most people in that profession. Almost all "pain" of the type your friend described is rooted in the mind. At least that is my belief. You unwittingly planted the idea that she had problems with that shoulder in her mind, so the subconscious obligingly provided it. Just one possible scenario, but I am a believer in the power of the subconscious, and the work of Dr. John Sarno.
 
Going back to the Sylvia Browne case, I mentioned earlier in this post about the integrity and ethics of work like this, which I feel are extremely important to uphold. For me, unless she linked in mediumistically with the deceased (or supposedly deceased in this case) person in spirit, and therefore gained absolutely stonewall, concrete evidence that the person was in spirit, she should not have reported this to the relatives. For someone who’s made a living from this work for so long, I cannot buy that she is unable to tell the difference between a psychic link and a mediumistic one. Therefore, I am of the impression that this was an ‘educated’ guess that the person would not be found alive, which has now backfired on her.
I certainly agree with this. If a psychic isn't getting anything then it's their moral obligation to admit that straight-up rather than to think, 'oh well, I have a better than 50/50 chance the child is dead by now so here's my opportunity to look 'all-knowing'. There's something very offensive about someone who'd knowingly offer false information - whether positive or negative - in a case involving a child. Or anyone, I guess. I'd imagine that psychics have some code of ethics but then so do ordinary people and lying is usually off the board. And unfortunately it gives the skeptics who think psychics are making it all up or doing 'educated guesses' more ammo. Which is sad, because I know that's not the case!
 
Well, I'm particularly down on "psychics" right now. A few days ago, a family member, who wants to explore her past lives, went to a psychic that she trusts, and asked about her PLs. The psychic told her that she died in the holocaust. My relative had no idea of any such thing. She is not the sort of person where this would be a healthy thing to have planted in her mind. Did the psychic "lie"? Probably not deliberately. She was asked a direct question, was put on the spot, and said what came into her head. I have been in that position. I say "I don't know", if I don't, but I am not on TV, and I don't make a living that way. I mostly just tell people common sense things, being careful not to plant an idea that could harm them, and occasionally, I "see" something real. I can tell the difference between "real", and something comforting, but meaningless. I get a strange shiver. I call it the "psychic shiver". I don't know if "real" psychics get those, or not. The psychic who scared me out of my wits, went into a sort of foaming- at -the- mouth trance, where demons were supposedly attempting to prevent her from giving me information. I did not even pay for the "show". She lost me when she said that she confers in her garden directly with Jesus, incarnate. However, in all fairness, some of what she said was true. Stick with the forum, and if I die of ovarian cancer in about ten more years, I will retract every negative thing I have said about psychics. I will come to your gardens, and do it incarnate. I will ask Jesus if he wants to come along. :laugh: By the way, Sylvia is still my favorite among the "liars"! There is no system of "ethics" for psychics, that I have ever observed. They are eventually forced into lying by the nature of their business. I don't want to know the future - when you are twenty you want to be told pleasant lies, and when you are older, it arrives soon enough.
 
Briar Rose does the "shiver" feel like goosebumps and the more correct you are the stronger they are until they almost hurt? That is what I get ....
 
Yes, Mama, you "nailed" the feeling exactly. I feel cold, tingly, and get "gooseflesh". I have it right now - maybe that's an indication that we are "speaking true"? It's the barometer that I use for the strength of the information that I am getting.
 
My biggest objection concerning SB - is she started her own church (which enables her to not have to pay taxes.) saywhat
 
That is quite a valid point, Deborah. I think it is called "Novus Spiritus". I have heard unsettling things about the cost of materials that study groups have to use.
 
argonne1918 said:
I think 1960's and 70's. He was notorious, but it was all legal. I'll have to see if I can find the name. People would pay a fee and he would send you your "diploma".
"Universal Life Church". Looks like they are still in business. Here is the story.
 
BriarRose, I find it very strange that you're so dismissive of mediums and psychics, considering you have such an interest in past-lives and have had experiences yourself, as you mention in your post. Admittedly, there are some fakes out there, such as the complete charlatan you've described in your post. Unfortunately, they tend to be the ones in the spotlight and give the genuine people a bad name.


I completely agree with you about ego destroying the beauty of the work. I have seen many examples of this myself. However, it's down to the individual and how strong their particular value and moral system is as to how they use their particular gift. Knowing several people who have done this work for many years to a good standard, who are totally uncompromised and unaffected by ego, I cannot agree with you that a gift cannot remain untainted and unaffected by ego. If someone is determined enough to keep their value system intact, they'll do it. I cannot accept that they are eventually forced into lying by the nature of their business. If someone is of fine enough moral standard (as I believe people doing this work should be) and doesn't allow themselves to be corrupted, then they won't lie for the sake of protecting their own reputation.


I'm not familiar with the work of Dr John Sarno, so I cannot comment on that. However, I will say that the pain I experienced had to come from somewhere outside the normal scope, as it came instantly and went away instantly, with no previous occurrence or subsequent recurrence. It's entirely possible, I'm sure, that the suggestion was unwittingly planted by me to instigate the pain in the other person, but even if that's the case, it doesn't diminish the spirit contact in the first instance for me.


It's hard to 'prove' anything that occurs through personal experience, which is where scientifically minded sceptics pick spirituality apart, at least in their minds. The fact that most of them are too closed minded to the possibility of reviewing the sizeable amount of evidence and compelling case studies out there, and making an objective decision, speaks volumes in many cases, particularly with the 'professional' sceptics.


Don't get me wrong, some degree of scepticism is good. I'm probably what I would term a 'good sceptic', in that I try and look at all the possibilities with an open mind and don't get lost in the often ethereal nature of spirituality, where the same 'believe without questioning' mentality as seen in religion comes into play.


The English medium, Colin Fry, makes an excellent point when he says so much of spirituality is too ethereal and cannot be applied to life here on Earth. It's important to explain things in a way that can be understood by everyone. Finding a balance between the ethereal nature of spirituality and the methodical approach of science, whereby everyone can appreciate spirit in the same way, is something that will happen in time, I believe, as attitudes on both sides of the divide (currently) soften and minds begin to open.


Anyway, sorry for another epic LOL


Oh, and thank you argonne1918 for your very kind words :)
 
I think I am dismissive of psychics because I have that gift myself, at least to some extent. I know their limits, and understand their good intentions. I understand the pitfalls they face. What setting yourself up as a psychic often leads to is spiritual arrogance. That, I can not abide, in myself, or others. I had a message from "guidance" the other morning, right before waking up. The voice said, "Don't go getting any ideas, BriarRose. You are not a "channel" and not more spiritually able than anyone else." I took that to heart. It was like a bracing morning shower, and I needed it! :laugh:


Everyone who has ever had an unexplained pain, anywhere, should read John Sarno. I am living proof that his theories about pain are true. I read somewhere that the modern equivalent of a "curse" is being told by a doctor (or psychic) that you will have certain physical conditions. My opinion of many medical doctors is far worse than my opinion of most psychics. Oh my, BriarRose is on a "tear" this morning!


Your points are valid, Conroy, and you have every right to believe what you want. Blessings on what ever direction your spiritual gifts take you! By the way, that unsolicited "psychic" told my 14 year old daughter that I was dying of ovarian cancer. I have reason to dislike them! Which is weird, because I really like Sylvia Browne! ;)
 
Perhaps some people know me, but do they really KNOW me? In other words, could they see my essence? Even if I presented myself without a mortal body or with a projection as some have mentioned. I think not. I do not trust my sights of a soul's real essence and truth and I cannot trust anyone who claims to be such a seer.


Even if one claims to be a 'strand in my soulbraid', so-to-speak, I cannot trust such.


I would remain further reticent of anyone who claims to be a seer of my future or my destiny. If you cannot see my past, or my present truth, how can you claim access to the path ahead as if it were premeditated and in some 'phonebook of death'
 
In the early to mid 1980's I was in California for a short time. I had seen on the news that a girl or woman was missing and her car was found along the highway. A psychic helped locate her body. The victim had been abducted from the side of the road and murdered. I don't know if the case was ever closed or not. It really bothered me in that the area is heavily traveled so it is extremely unlikely that there were no witnesses.


The following day I was traveling the same highway and in almost the exact same spot where the victims car was found there was another female motorist with car trouble.


Cell phones didn't exist yet and there were no regular telephones for miles.


I wasn't about to see this on the news again, then live with the guilt that I could have prevented it so I made an illegal and extremely dangerous U-turn on the highway and parked next to the woman. I asked if she wanted me to give her a ride and immediately after she refused told me to go away.


(I was a peace officer at the time but for one reason or another I didn't have my badge or ID on me.)


I told her to calm down and accept the fact that I wasn't going anywhere no matter what she said or did until someone she knew or CHP came by. Basically "Just sit there & shut up!"


Within 20 minutes or so Highway Patrol stopped & the officer was able to call for a tow truck. He was also able to contact her husband.


Once she was safe & realized that I wasn't there to put her in a big pot then have her for dinner or something worse she thanked me for volunteering to babysit. She had seen the story on the news too and was terrified.


I'd do it again in a heartbeat. Imagine how life would have been for me if I didn't try and found out later she had been hurt or killed when I could have prevented it.


Please... if you are ever in a similar situation please don't wait for "the other guy" to help, jump in and do something yourself! "The bad guys" are less likely to commit a crime when there are possible witnesses or opposition.
 
I wrote this up in response to a theme I've been noticing recently, and multiple experiences of feeling compelled to communicate with someone about some inner crisis (sensed in them) that I'm not even sure exists based on rational observation. Hopefully this conversation will continue, because I find it helpful.


This is my understanding at this point, so please understand I might learn I'm wrong, and that's fine. I'm hoping people with more experience in this will continue to talk about it. Conroy's thoughts were particularly interesting since I haven't heard much from those who actively practice mediumship(?)


Having a limited ability to "read" people psychically (Not past life, but more at the current emotional/spiritual level.) I receive poetic, illustrative, philosophical thoughts and encouragements to add perspective to where they are. I can say that complete confidence in what I "sense" isn't possible, and I would never expect someone to hear what I say and base future decisions on it without serious contemplation.


It's been reliable enough that I take the risk to write it out and give it to people, and often receive positive feedback even from strangers. At the same time the only reason I know it's helpful is because the receiver tells me so, and if they find it off-base I'm not surprised.


(I wish I could persuade people to be more in-depth about whether it's useful or not because I'd like to learn how to know with more certainty.)


Now, that's at my skill level, but I think it's across-the-board easy to mix or misunderstand the spiritual senses, because our physical constraints prevent us from fully sensing or utilizing them.


Even the best of psychics is only tapping into a tiny cross-section of spiritual connections so vast that we can't comprehend them. Because they are focused and trained they can be more sensitive and practiced than most, and the information they find can be useful,... but it's still very shaky when it comes to accuracy because the information is filtered through the perceptions and preconceptions of the mind and body. It needs to be tested and refined, especially when it's predictive or meant to direct future choices.


Like colored, curved glass, an individual WILL change the quality of the light that passes through them by their very nature. It is possible to remove the most obstructive residue of belief or preconceptions, but I don't think it's possible not to alter the information.


I think we can be more accurate with our own past lives because they are our own experiences, and recorded on our own spiritual nature and memory. It's not second-hand information. Even so, it's still easily distorted or hidden by our internal limitations and preconceptions in this life. Spirit communicates to where we are, using what we make available.


I would like to consult a reliable psychic someday, and interact with mediums as well, not to get insight on my own life (though I'm always prepared to do so) but in order to understand how they work and possibly learn from them.


I've observes a pattern of "prediction altering perception" in such a way that the future is changed, which makes negative or overly prescriptive readings a hugely complicated concept to me.


Hmm. Well, I'm obviously hoping to read more of your thoughts and experiences here. I'm thinking this through still.
 
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